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    Frontpage (2000)

    Okay, I want real honesty. I currently have two web sites that were created with frontpage, but more and more I hear that Dreamweaver is better. Any comments? Should I switch?
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    Re: Frontpage (2000)

    You realize you are starting something here <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>. I am using both products and have for a couple of years.

    Here is how I would go about making the decision for one vs the other.
    Ease of use, integration with MS office suite - Points to frontpage.
    Connected templates, integration with Fireworks and Flash - points to Dreamweaver.
    Multiple users contributing content directly - Frontpage
    Requires FP extensions on the server to get the best out of the website - Point to Dreamweaver, though if you want things like hit counters or discussion webs that are easy for a novice to set up in FP, trust me you'll be talking to your technical support and learning a programming language in addition using Dreamwaver.

    Any tool can be used ineptly and I have found myself swearing at both products and myself <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>. I also think that a good understanding of the capabilities of a product allows one to plan the work so that you'll get the best performance from the software.
    I don't find one creates "better" code than the other, as long as you understand HTML.
    I think Dreamweaver has a longer learning curve and (to a windows user) a more "cluttered" workspace, but that is from its' Mac heritage. I do love Fireworks and Flash, so if you want those products - that's the way to go.
    Recently in a thread on the Web Coding board we were discussing Java drop down menus <post#=324136 >post 324136 </post#> - and I have to confess I was disappointed by what Dreamweaver produced. I was interested to see that Mark (who has been using Dreamweaver longer than I have) also found the code inadequate and replaced it with his own.

    Really, as I've said before it comes down to the marketing of the two products. FP has taken some unfair hits due to the fact that it was sold to people as a product that didn't require understanding of HTML or web page design. What bullhockey! So of course people who didn't understand those things made crummy webpages. Dreamweaver, has always postioned itself as a designers tool and does assume significant background in HTML, webdesign and other programming. It also has been used for higher end commercial sites (in addition with a whole host of other tools) - so its' gotten its' name on some pretty forward looking websites.
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    Re: Frontpage (2000)

    Some other considerations:
    1. <LI>Are you highly productive with FrontPage and know how to work around its limitations?
      <LI>Will you get Dreamweaver MX (or the entire Studio MX suite) and training on it for free or a nominal cost?
      <LI>Will you want to continue a career in web design for other employers?
    From one perspective, your immediate productivity is the most important thing, while from another, maintaining a broad, up-to-date skill set is the most important thing. I'm not sure you can have both at the same time, so... you have to do what makes the most sense in your situation. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Frontpage (2000)

    I appreciate the input. I took a couple classes on HTML, but have to admit that it frustrated me a bit. I am somewhat comfortable with FP and have done two sites with it. Could you possibly take a look and then let me know what you would suggest me using. I do like SWISH and would like the site I develop for the florist to be nice looking and creative, but with working another job I don't have the time to do something to complicated. The two sites I have done are www.svbest.com and www.faithbsv.org After looking at these, let me know what you would recommend. Thanks!
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    Re: Frontpage (2000)

    Then I'd suggest sticking with FrontPage. There is no problem intregrated .swf files created by Swish with FP.

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    Re: Frontpage (2000)

    I too, would second Catharine's recommendation: stick to what you know. Dreamweaver is certainly capable of doing the things that you want, but the learning curve will hinder you.

    My personal tactic is to use Frontpage for things that I need to do efficiently and quickly, because I know the product. Usually this is for corporate projects or those that require specifics I have little time to play with in Dreamweaver.

    I started using Dreamweaver on my personal site, where screw-ups can be forgiven (forgiving yourself is easier to do). My long term goal is to get to know Dreamweaver as well as I do Frontpage, because I tend to like the "power-user" interface better, and it is marketed more in that vein. Also, I hate Frontpage extensions, because I have long detested anything that requires additional software to do what can be done without it.

    For Frontpage, I would also highly recommend that you visit http://www.outfront.net/ and spend some time. You can get excellent templates, custom templates for a fee, and a lot of advice.
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    Re: Frontpage (2000)

    Thanks for the input - I have visited outfront.net and love it! Thank you!
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