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    Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    Hi,

    Does anyone know what governs the order in which Programs are displayed in the start menu? I though it may be all users/single user but there doesn't seem to be any correlation. They just seem to be jumbled up randomly.

    It would also be nice to have all programs available to all users instead of just the account under which they were installed but that just seems to be something lacking in the install program of some applications. Probably those which are not fully Windows Logo compliant. Does anyone know more about that?

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    Re: Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    You can reorganize the Start | (All) Programs menu the way you like it. You can drag items up and down and into submenus, and if you right-click, you can Sort by Name; this will sort submenus apart from menu items, but it won't distinguish between "all users" items and your personal menu items.

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    Re: Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    Although you can organize and customize the Start Menu almost any way you want, and you can remove the All Programs menu from it if you like, one of the best things about the Start Menu is that you don't even have to use it if you don't want. You can activate an address bar in the task bar by simply right clicking it that will also function as a run box and you can start most programs from there. For example, if you want to open OE, Word, Outlook or its calendar, you could do it right in that space faster than you can go to the start menu. You could modify that space and use it as a command prompt as well.

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    Re: Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    As has been suggested, right-click on you most heavily used Programs and shoose Pin To Shart Menu. You can then arrange those few programs in any desired order.

    On the All Users aspect, you can go to the Documents and Settings folders. Find Start Menu items in the individual Users folders and drag them to the All Users Start Menu folders. You will have to be logged on with Administrtaive privileges to do this. You will also have to check the permissions for the shortcuts (right-click|Security) - as they may be set for individual Users.

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    Re: Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    As for all programs being available to all users, some installation routines will give the option of installing for all users or for just the current user. Some don't give this option and will install for all users while others simply install for the current user (the latter are commonly, but not always, small shareware utilities). In my experience, it is simply a matter of switching users and installing the program again.

    There is also the option of opening "Documents and SettingsUserStart MenuPrograms" and copying the relevant shortcuts to the "Documents and SettingsAll UsersStart MenuPrograms" folder. I have not tried this, however, and I really don't know if this would work properly. Maybe someone else has had experience doing this and can make a comment.
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    Re: Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    Thanks. The right click and sort by name has made it much more pleasant!

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    Re: Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    That's pretty much the impression I had about this all users/current users mess.

    I've done what you said in the past and gone and reinstalled the program under each account (what a pain!), and I've played around with the shortcuts themselves in the Programs folder for the various accounts. Hopefully in future more and more install programs will give the all users/current user option during installation.

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    Re: Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    John mentioned the contents of the menu mirror--the Documents and Settings{username}Start MenuPrograms folder can be customized by dragging and dropping either in the menu itself or Explorer. You can open the Start Menu in Explorer with a right click of any folders in the All Programs menu (counterpart to the Programs menu in the Classic Start Menu) and click Explorer.

    You can also remove the Frequently Used Program list to make more Start Menu space to pin items you want instead of items Microsoft wants to promote and thanks to Woody's book for pointing to the first JSI tip:

    <A target="_blank" HREF="http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBL/tip5700/rh5776.htm">5776

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    Re: Start menu program order (Pro SP1)

    <hr>Hopefully in future more and more install programs will give the all users/current user option during installation<hr>
    You would think that by now, after years of Windows 2000 and XP being in the mainstream, perhaps software developers would do that. You certainly do not see this kind of foolishness in the *nix worlds as often, because there was never a single user version of those operating systems (where Windows had the DOS/3.1/9x line).

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