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    Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    Hi there!

    I have the oddest problem with my wireless network card in my laptop:
    When I start Windows, no connection is found (none whatsoever).

    But funny enough, as soon as I put the laptop in standby and wake it up
    again: presto, a wireless network is found and connection is perfect.

    What is going on here?


    The device is called "PRISM 80211g Wireless Adapter", it is built-in.
    The driver info states Intersil, date 26-8-2003, version 2.1.7.0

    Router: Linksys WRT54G Firmware v1.42.2

    Laptop: Medion MD 40100
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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    Are you powering on the router at the same time as the laptop? Often, it is a timing issue when the router has been powered down. It takes a few minutes for the router to establish its connections. If the router is powered on 24/7, then I don't have an answer.
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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    Jan,

    I had the same kind of problem with a linksys router recently, only mine got the signal (very low power) and the lost it again at next startup. Turned out the PCI card was faulty. Have you tried another card? How about borrowing another router to test?

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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    Thanks for the responses guys.

    - the router is indeed 24/24 on
    - it is a built-in card, so exchange is not really an option.
    - I already exchaged the router for same make and model, no luck.

    Once I wake up the PC, all is very well, so I strongly suspect a driver or firmware issue on either (both?) end.
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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    You know how Windows XP seems to boot up much faster than Windows 2000? I think it's a mirage. You get the GUI before the plumbing has been fully completed, and that, I suspect, causes timing issues with network connections. I've noticed that when the "Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to login" box appears, the hard disk is still busy for a good while. So while I don't have a solution, you might try waiting a minute until the activity dies down before logging in and see if that helps.

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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    A few thoughts. When you say no connection is found, do you mean the wireless network is showing no available wireless networks, or the wireless network is showing as not available? There is an important difference, in that the latter can only be internal to the PC. If the former, it could be a handshaking problem - I have known it take up to 5 minutes to negotiate a connection on an apparently healthy signal, for no obvious reason, and it is entirely possible that it simply gives up before it connects. If the latter, check the power saving settings for the wireless adapter - it could be shuttng down before it gets initiated.

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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    <<So while I don't have a solution, you might try waiting a minute until the activity dies down before logging in and see if that helps. >>

    Alas, no sigar. No matter how long I wait, disabling and enabling the connection (or any other trick in the book) doesn't convince the system it has a wireless connection to make. Only standby and out of it helps.
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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    It only shows "preferred networks", no available networks.
    Since I get immediate connect on awaking after standby I suspect some sort of handshaking problem.

    I do have new firmware for the wireless router, but I'm very hesitant to upgrade it since I now have a working connection (allbeit after getting in and out of standby)

    Maybe it is best to leave things as they are now...

    Power save is off.
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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    Can you check what services are running (via TaskManager) before and after the standby solution and see if there is anything different?

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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    Good idea, will do when I have some time.
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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    One of my customers has a wierd problem - wireless PC, suddenly says "No Wireless connection available" for no obvious reason after working OK for hours. I have found when trying to diagnose it that as soon as I start up a laptop with a wireless connection, the PC finds a connection and carries on happily as if nothing had happened. This has only happened a couple of times in a few months so is nothing like your problem, except that I would be interested to know if firing up another wireless device caused it to restart. If you can borrow another laptop it would be worth trying. The other thing you could do in that case if the behavior stays the same would be to run the Openextra network toolkit (which has some wireless tools, and is free) on the other laptop and see what is flying around. One final thought - is the IP address fixed or DHCP? It might be worth trying a fixed address if it is trying to get the address from the router.

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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    Services are identical in both situations.
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    Re: Wireless connect problem (XP Pro SP 1)

    Thanks, I'll try.
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