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    Re: Persistent folders

    Sorry, I skipped right over that one. The only other thing that I can think of is that somewhere in the registry entires, probably in another application, is a reference to the folders that you are trying to delete.
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    Re: Persistent folders

    If you re-start, and press and hold F8 (or CTRL on some systems) you should get the 'safe mode' menu, which will give you an option for MS-DOS. Or, you can go to <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.bootdisk.com>www.bootdisk.com</A> Get a caldera DOS disk, and manually delete the folders.

    I don't think you will be able to delete them while you're running NT.
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    Re: Persistent folders

    See if this tip at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.jsiinc.com/subd/tip1700/rh1793.htm>JSI</A> helps.

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    Re: Persistent folders

    Not directly but I did look at a few of the other Sysinternals utilities. One of them Filemon v4.33 gives you real-time info on what's happening to a file/folder. I set it up to filter out everything except operations on one of the miscreant folders, tried to delete it and came up with this-

    36 9:08:28 AM EXPLORER.EXE:119 FASTIO_DEVICE_CONTROL M:binVisio_InstallInstallbinWindowsProfilesApplica tion Data FAILURE IOCTL: 0x70000

    Any idea what IOCTL: 0x70000 is?

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    Re: Persistent folders

    At a guess InOutConTRoL . . .? . . and sounds like it's related to Visio.

    Do I understand you have uninstalled Visio?
    Might be worth looking at this then:

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q282/2/34.ASP>Q282234</A> How to completely remove Visio

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    Re: Persistent folders

    I did the Visio uninstall thing a couple of weeks ago. It didn't exactly solve my Visio problems but I'm past that. (See the Visio forum).

    IOCTL is indeed InOutConTRoL, the question is what is 0x70000. It has nothing to do with Visio. It has everything to do with the NT file system. I have this problem with things other than related to Visio.
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    Re: Persistent folders

    Ok - I'm running out of ideas here, I'm afraid.
    I've got lost on whether or not you still have Visio installed (after reading your post in the Visio forum.)
    My last guess is that you do have it installed and are trying to delete the folder you installed it from. At a guess, NT may not let you delete it in case you need to do an 'Add/Remove Programs' to it and it will have stored the install path.
    Run a search in your registry and see if the path name(s) crop up. If they do, you could try deleting or changing the references (backup/export first), reboot and see if that helps.

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    Re: Persistent folders

    I had Visio installed, I riped it out by the roots after Add/Remove refused to, I then eventualy managed to reinstall it but as I said in my last posting -

    THIS PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VISIO!!!

    I'm sorry I used that folder as an example. As I also said in the last posting, there are several other folders that have nothing to do with Visio, have never had anything to do with Visio and will never have anything to do with Visio that I can't delete. I've searched the registry for several of these problem folders and they aren't there.

    I think the key to this is going to be finding out what IOCTL: 0x70000 is. It's probably the return value from a call to the procedure FASTIO_DEVICE_CONTROL in EXPLORER.EXE. If I could find out what that return value means I might understand what the issue is.
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    Re: Persistent folders

    Try this one
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q120/7/16.asp>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/ar...s/Q120/7/16.asp</A>

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    Re: Persistent folders

    The del ...... syntax goes through the motions and doesn't do anything. rm tries to delete but returns with an illegal operation message.

    The saga continues.
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    Re: Persistent folders

    OK - few more straws - apologies if you tried these:

    Permissions - have you tried taking ownership?
    Can you rename any of the folders?
    Can you copy the folder tree?
    Are you trying to delete a tree? - or bottom level up?
    From command prompt, navigate to the lowest level and do a DIR - does it list anything other than the parent folders?

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    Re: Persistent folders

    If you have Admin privlages, make a NEW admin type user account. Lggin as this new admin, and try it.
    I noticed that some of these folders are in the profiles area, "(C:WINNTProfilesxxxxxxDesktopdewitt1_advanced_dev elopmentAdmin)", if you are loggin as the user of this folder, I do NOT think that you can delete it, it is in use by your loggin.

    To clean up, some of the different folders of the Admin account, I have had to loggin as another Admin user and do the deleteing. I am running Windows 2000.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Persistent folders

    Permissions - have you tried taking ownership?
    Doesn't change anything.

    Can you rename any of the folders?
    No, "Sharing Violation"

    Can you copy the folder tree?
    I copied a branch of the tree to anouther part of the tree and then deleted the copy.

    Are you trying to delete a tree? - or bottom level up?
    yes - both

    From command prompt, navigate to the lowest level and do a DIR - does it list anything other than the parent folders?
    No, just . and ..

    Thanks anyway
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    Re: Persistent folders

    Some more links to try
    1. <A target="_blank" HREF=http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q228/9/30.ASP>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/ar...s/Q228/9/30.ASP</A>
    2. <A target="_blank" HREF=http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q184/4/08.ASP>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/ar...s/Q184/4/08.ASP</A>
    3. <A target="_blank" HREF=http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q181/3/45.asp>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/ar...s/q181/3/45.asp</A>

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    Re: Persistent folders

    This realy only applies to files that NT is using as part of its operating system. These are folders that have never been associated with the operating sytem and contain no files.
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