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    Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    To speed my ever slowing system up, I'm turning off as many Startup items as I can. Can you advise me if these can be turned off (nothing shows up on Ctl-Alt-Delete):
    1. NVCPL: Rundle32.exe C:WindowsSystem32NvCPL.dll,NvStrarup
    2. DellMMKB DELLMMKB.exe (Obviously something my Computer manufacturer put in)
    3. IPMon32.exe (the connection manager for SBC Yahoo DSL
    4. E_S10IC (For my Epson 2200): C:WindowsSystem32DriversW32X863E_S10IC
    5. MVMCTray Rundle32.exe NVMCTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
    6. tgcmd C:Programsupport.combintgcmd.exe" serverstartmonitordeafnosystray (presumably another SBC thingy).

    I've already removed about 6 things, with definite improvement in speed (along with minimizing my advanced performance settings.

    Any advice about the above or about other speedups.

    Thanks

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    Try searching for those entries on this Startup Applications List

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    Just bear in mind that if you remove the Epson thingy, you may not be able to print. You should be able to create a shortcut, though, if you really want to remove it from the startup list.
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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    Thanks to both of you. That list rocks!! Getting these and the other 6 items off startup does, indeed, speed the system. btw: that list maker says it's better to move them from the actual startup directory, than to uncheck in msconfig/startup. Does it really matter. I'd rather just uncheck.

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    While msconfig does work OK, It is primarily meant to be a troubleshooter utility, so that you can disable, test & reenable things again.
    A more permanent way would be to remove them from startup after you see that things are still running OK without these items.

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    See Post 334271 and Post 33343 and Post 296091.

    Msconfig's startup tab isn't the answer for a lot of programs that can be configured to run at startup from as many as a dozen launch pads. It's a troubleshooting tool because unchecking the program at msconig is often temporary. I'd strongly recommend looking at Windows XP Home and Professional Service Configurations by Black Viper and his caveat not to rely on msconfig to disable all services that run on startup.

    Multiple Locations for Startup Items:

    Startup Folder (User) %UserProfile%StartMenuProgramsStartup folder contains shortcuts that run when a specific user account logs on
    Startup Folder (Common) )%UserProfile%StartMenuProgramsStartup folder same as above.
    Registry Run Key (Machine) HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRun key avail. all users.
    Registry Run Key (User) HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWiindowsCurrentVersionRun registry key run when the user logs on.
    Load Value Programs listed in the load value of HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWindows run when anyone logs on.
    Scheduled Tasks Folder
    Win.ini
    Run Once and RunOnceEx keys
    Group Policy
    PoliciesExplorerRun keys
    BootExecute value
    Logon Scripts

    Msconfig or any 3rd party startup managers don't see startup applications specified by Group Policy.

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    If you would rather uncheck, then by all means do so. All the MSCONFIG utility is doing is moving them in the start menu or the registry, wherever they happen to live, so the net effect is the same.

    I think the list's owner should be more concerned with people actually deleting the items, instead of moving them.
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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    Well, it turns out that most of the things I listed aren't in the Startup folder. So, to get them from starting automatically I'd have to search everywhere, including the Registry, and, for a non-pro, that isn't too appealing. The services.msc doesn't seem to list them in a recognizeable fashion. So, without one of you here at my side, it seems that msconfig is the easiest and safe-est, though as implied, a couple of them just turn themselves on again with the next boot.

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    Services are a different beast than most startup items. If you muck with them make absolutely sure you know what the service is for before changing its startup state. Disabling them in MSCONFIG completely disables the service, and if you have software that depends on one of those disabled items you could run into problems. A better tactic for managing services is to set the startup type to Manual in the Services applet, that way they can start if needed. A favourite reference for these items here in the Lounge is Black Viper's Services 411.

    As far as things turning themselves back on, I have seen things like QuickTime and Messenger (the IM one) do that. Highly irritating but it happens. If you could provide examples of what is coming back after you turn it off, then perhaps we can collectively find a way to permanently put them on the disabled list. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    I just realized that no one has mentioned this (or if they did, I missed it). How much memory do you have in the system? If you are noticing large performance gains by removing startup items, it may be related to a lack of resources. XP fits well into 256MB of RAM, and 512MB is ideal.
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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    I'll look into the last part of your post. What I'm saying about the first part, and about services, is that I don't see any names under services that coincide with the .exe files which I see in msconfig. Even when I've identified the .exe (using the link supplied by Stuart R)I still can't identify it in services.msc?

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    If you want to see the EXE name that is associated with a particular service, you can double-click on the service name and see what the Path to executable value is. Services are identified by their name because they do not always have an EXE of their own, as in the attached. This is because of the way they are designed; they are not intended to have any end-user interaction and are executed by the OS in a completely different manner than other startup items.

    To make life a little simpler, when you open the Services applet, you can click on the Status column to sort them by their running state (running or not). You can sort any column in the service manager this way.
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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    Nope: I'm fine with 512 (though thinking of going up to 1 Gig or more, and/or partitioning a new HD for a scratch disk, since upgrading to Photoshop CS and beginning to work on RAW images: that combination plays hell with your speed. But I'm not talking about that, just plain running the system.

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    My 2cents worth:
    I don't see where anyone has asked whether or not you have checked for spyware, malware or any of the other wares <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>, These can have a definite effect on performance. If you do not have any spyware detection software on your computer, I suggest you download spybot and/or adaware and run them. You can use both or either one. (they work well together). Be sure to update them/it before you scan your system.

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    Re: Startup Items (XP home SR1)

    One of the posts I linked to above was the Starpost for this. You're right--always a good place to check.

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