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    Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    I'm using Windows XP Home with all the latest updates applied. This weekend I downloaded an update to my NVidia video driver that was indicated by Microsoft to be strongly recommended or required. After installing it, I noticed that it didn't tolerate my screen saver so I uninstalled it and went back to the original XP NVidia driver.

    I had been using Hiberate as a power saving feature for a long time in XP Home. Now, since the above experience, Hibernate seems to be gone. I checked Power Management feature in the Control Panel and it isn't even available as a tabbed choice anymore.

    Did Microsoft pull a fast one and yank Hibernate because of some security issue without telling me? I have an incremental drive image backup that goes back to before my download and I'm tempted to restore it to see if that will get back my Hibernate capability. I have only a dial-up account, not an always-on Internet connection, and fail to see the need for this presumptive act.

    Does anyone know if Microsoft did this or something else may have happened?

    Bob in Seattle

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Rule number one<big> <big> <big> "NEVER </big> </big> </big>use a driver from MS Windows Update", go to the OEM to get these.

    Now, check the settings within the "Screen saver area" since you are now having screen saver problems also.

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Good advice, I'm sure, on MS Windows Update.

    On the screen saver, however, I'm no longer having the problem since I reverted to my previous driver. But I did completely lose Hibernate capability in the whole process. This is what I'd like to get back.

    Bob in Seattle

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    If you go to "Display Properties" by right clicking the desk top, select the Screen Saver tab, and then go to the bottom of the pane, you will see "Monitor Power" and select the Power button. You will find that there are hibernations settings.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    There *used* to be Hibernation settings there. My point is that they have vanished. I suspect a Microsoft stealth maneuver.

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Is the actual Hibernate tab missing, where you have the ability to enable/disable hibernation? Or is the issue that you no longer have the drop-down box titled System Hibernates where you can select the period of time before it occurs? I am not clear on exactly what is missing. It may be as simple as re-enabling hibernate support on that last tab in Power Options Properties. Can you check and clarify that?
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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Yes, the actual Hibernate tab is missing, where I could formerly enable hibernation. Furthermore, under Power Schemes, there are only two options: Turn Off Monitor and Turn Off Hard Drives. There used to be two additional: System Standby and Hibernation.

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Bob, before you go much further, System Restore is probably the best option to try. Check and see if you have a restore point from before this behaviour started, and try rolling yourself back.

    I must stress that although System Restore is not a panacea, it has the unique ability to save your bacon when things like this happen. You will have to re-apply any driver updates or patches that you have installed from the time of the restore point, so keep that in mind.
    -Mark

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Good thought, Mark. I'll check the Restore points and do that if I find a recent one, rather than do a full backup restore.

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Let us know how you make out...not sure if it is an evil Redmondian conspiracy or not, but so far as I know Microsoft does not single out individual users. They prefer to <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> off their customers in large groups. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> More effective use of resources, you see.
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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Fortunately, I found that I had a Restore point the day before I went to the ill-fated Microsoft Update site and found that NVidia Graphics update. I successfully restored the system and, lo and behold, there was my Hibernate back where it should be.

    Exhilarated with my success, I went directly to the NVidia website and downloaded and installed the graphics upgrade. The result: a very nice graphics array of new features and tweaks, all working well, no problems or interferences with screen savers. And the Hibernate still works.

    My conclusion: Microsoft hid some Security changes in with the NVidia update that included completely doing away with the Hibernate feature. I was initially puzzled as to why the NVidia Graphics update was categorized as a strongly recommended one rather than merely suggested. What I object to is Microsoft lumping these changes in with a graphics update and not telling anyone about them...not telling me it was suspending a feature of XP I've grown to enjoy and rely upon.

    Thanks for all your help and suggestions, guys!

    Bob in Seattle

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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Aye, your bacon has been saved! <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23>

    For what it's worth, I do not think that Microsoft bundled anything additional in with the driver that came from Windows Update. It is certainly possible, but I would think that doing so would raise such a hue and cry that they would quickly get called out for such actions. This begs the question of "why" in regards to your hibernation functionality vanishing, to which I do not have an answer. What I do know is that the drivers available from Windows Update are almost always behind the curve and as you noticed, they do not include the additional functionality that comes with the vendor's updates.

    Whatever the case...a lesson learned, and you are working as you should be. Thanks for sharing your success!
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    Re: Hibernate Lost (Latest)

    Bob,
    I think you will find that the driver from MS is an older one than you had already had installed. When installing an older driver, one may find all kind of things will happen. When using the NVidia drivers one needs to go to the OEM of the graphics card as each of the OEM that license the use of this driver may alter it a bit to meet the OEM's requirements.

    The drivers are submitted to MS by the OEM and take about 90 days for approval, some the OEM's may have a newer version out before MS approves the submitted one.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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