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    Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Hi All - I was ranting about all my hates re excel and just got carried away with myself - ended up including an explorer hate with the list. I got really good answers to all the other hates but I was pointed here re explorer.

    Anyway, what happens is when I start explorer (usually win-e key) and select my C: drive, the drive spins for about 90 seconds before it opens the tree. Guess it gives me time to get a cup of coffee but how many can one drink in a day?

    Does anyone know what is happening here? Is there anyway to stop this?
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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Hi Tim

    One possibility relates to certain USB devices or Window Image Acquisition, see MSKB 819017

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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Great - read the knowledge base and then pulled the plug on my UBS based palm pilot. Opens double quick smart now.
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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Tim,
    It'll also help if in Windows Explorer you go to Tools | Folder Options | View and make sure that 'Automatically search for network folders and printers' is not checked.

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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Sorry to reactive this post after soooo long (or should i start another?) but my explorer is as slow as ever. I can open it quick smart (showing a fully collapsed tree) but as soon as I ask it to open the C: drive, it hangs, disk spins and nothing happens for a good 2 minutes.

    Is this something to do with the index or not caching the file structure / layout, etc?
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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    What disply mode do you use in Windows Explorer, Detail, List, Icons, Tiles, or Thumbnails?

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Good question - by far the most common (and the default when it opens) is DETAILS.
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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Tim

    Presumably you've defragged recently?

    Do you have huge folder trees? Any disk errors in the System Event log?

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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Hi John,

    I did spend a night re-re-re-re-running the defrager that other week - one of the things that I do every now and then (how boring does that make me sound?).

    As for the tree structure - its a 20gb drive with about 16gb used, around 25 directories off the root but about 14000 directories in all (I think - do does one check?). But does this make a difference - I thought that there would be a INDEX file somewhere and that explorer would just grab info from that.

    Finally, "system event log" - what system event log. There is to be a program that scanned your disk for errors (disk scan?) - does XP still have such a utility?
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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    How many file are at the "root" of this drive"?
    Also, any of the root files very large?
    Other than the "Pagefile".

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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    26 files in the C: drive. Page file is largest at 1.536 Gb. Next is a zip file at 4.7mb.
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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Move the zip file and see if that changes things. Also move any of the other files that are NOT system files from the root.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    hmmm, that didn't seem to help. I now have zero (non system) files in my root directory. Still get a large delay and lots of disk churning to open the C: drive (actually, it might be a little quicker - I'll monitor and update tomorrow).
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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Tim

    There used to be something called Fast Find on Windows 98 and other OpSyses, but this turned out to be a pain in the proverbial, because it kept on trying to index the hard disk when you didn't want it to, and prevented you from actually accessing the hard disk! We turned it off in NT almost the minute it came through the door.

    Bizarrely, it might have been of value in your particular circumstance, but I think it got left out of XP, to General Rejoicing!

    I think the problem is more to do with you having LOTS of directories and files, although your MFT might be badly fragmented. What does the Defragger Volume Report say about fragmented directories and other things? How many Green Blodges do you have in the Estimated Disk Usage bars?

    (You could always do a trial install of Diskeeper Workstation or Raxco PerfectDisk, provided they still do them, and try their Boot Time Defragmentation Options, which can clean up more than the standard XP defragger can do...).

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    Re: Explorer Delay (Win XP)

    Does this only apply to C: ?
    Can you open any other local or networked drives/folders faster?
    In your folder options, are you asking to display hidden/system/network folders and files?

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