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    Computers - Gateway & HP

    Okay, I know a lot of you like Dell's, but how do Gateway, HP and Compaq all fit in to the senerio? Waiting with anticipation for your input - will be guying a pc for son-in-law in the next week. <img src=/S/help.gif border=0 alt=help width=23 height=15>
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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    I am using several that are NOT on your list. If you were to check out the Sony line you may be surprised.
    We have 2 Sony laptops and I am no running a Sony 410 desk top. Fry's locally (Renton, WA) have been running some good prices on the Sony's

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    I use the one called "Build It Yourself". <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16> I have also learned not to say anything about the above mentioned Machines as it is not good Manners to do so,,or is that ,,,Not Politically Correct to do so. <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> What ever it is,,the Moderators have been giving me Edicate Lessons. <img src=/S/cop.gif border=0 alt=cop width=15 height=24> I'm doing a lot better then I was over a year ago. Me Thinks.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    I don't know, I believe that if those vendors have quirks with their product - it is their problem and we should be able to discuss it openly. If they don't like it, make a better product!
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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    Cowboy,
    Care to explain yourself "good Manners to do so,,or is that ,,,Not Politically Correct to do so" ?

    I know of NO rule against a valid input about any product, here at Woody's Lounge.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    DaveA,,,ya gotta understand I was pretty rough around the edges when I first came to this Forum and my way of expressing my opinion was a little less then desirable. <img src=/S/bif.gif border=0 alt=bif width=70 height=28> Ask around.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    I happen to have several years of mostly favorable experience with Gateway, but that doesn't mean I know anything "bad" about the others. It has nothing to do with the hardware, but these days I think one question one needs to check on is whether or not you get a copy of the OS which is to be installed on the machine. I will NOT buy a machine that provides only a "restore" CD. There are just too many drawbacks to that if you have to install routines that didn't get installed on shipment and other problems. Also, in limited experience with Compaq, I didn't like the fact that they don't format or prepare their hard drives in what could be called a "traditional" manner. I haven't bought one lately, so I don't know if they still do that.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    Lynn,
    I totally agree with Big Al. Get a PC that comes with an OS CD not a restore CD. If/when you or your son-in-law get done changing the PC to suit you'll almost inevitably have to use the restore CD and be back to square one again.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    Well, for what it's worth, I gotta take the Cowboy approach in that as little as four years ago I could not find one off the shelf that was capable of upgrading, they all had on-motherboard video and no agp slot, they mostly had crappy 6 month term power supplies with the bare minimum of power capacity, and all the PCI slots( 3 I think for the most part) were mostly already filled with their stuff. I think that's somewhat changed, but have not had one "customized" as I prefer to do it myself.

    Now my mother and father have had an HP8somethinorother for 4 years with no problems. 'Course they just play solitare and check their email for the most part also.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    Funny, I have a friend that works for UPS and he says there are just as many Gateways coming back as going out. I love Dell for m friends and family, Great support and they're reliable, For myself, (and the lounge) I like the Frankenstein machines. (Like Cowboy was saying) More powerful system for less money if you bild it yourself.
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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    Lynn.
    Since you are in WA state, and if you want a good local built machine, check out http://shop.hdnw.com/asp/default.asp.
    Hard Drives Northwest, Inc.
    14504 NE 20th
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    Phone 425-644-6474
    Fax 425-644-1963

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    Build yourself is best, but if giving the computer to someone, that someone had better know how to provide their own support.

    Of the major PC manufacturers, support likely stinks for all of them, with Dell reputed to be the best of all for support.

    For hardware, I'd recommend buying whichever system was best for non-proprietary parts. Micron still might be best for this.
    I purchased a Micron system several years ago and have been disappointed in their support.

    Don't know if the above opinions are still valid.

    In general, if the user needs support, I guess Dell is the way to go.
    If the user does not need support, then build your own is the way to go,

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    Compaq is/was not the only one with the stupid drive partitioning.

    I do agree that all software must be available on CD so you can re-install at will.

    During the warranty period, you are stuck using what they give you, but soon after the warranty ends, I would install a retail version of the OS, if necessary, as a dual boot system.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    With PC prices so low, one cannot easily, if at all, build a PC for less than buying from, say, Dell, especially when the cost of software is taken into account.

    However, buiding gives one significant benefits, e.g.:

    1. Longer warranty on some components.
    2. Use of reatil, instead of OEM, software allows you to use MSFT for support and easier to get certain types of updates.
    3. There's a fairly active build your own community out there that can provide support, e.g., in the alt newsgroups.
    4. Don't need to waste time with inept customer service/support folkes at PC manufacturers.
    5. Do not have to pay for support when PC warranty expires.

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    Re: Computers - Gateway & HP

    Ayup, local built is a good alternative, but beware that some local builders might cut corners to save money and use lower quality parts.
    Also, there are he issues of warranty pass thru.

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