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    Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    I have a friend with a 3 year old Gateway Laptop, who wants to know if there are any negative consequences to leaving the machine on 24 / 7. He has 2 systems. An old EMachine that he uses for music and pictures, and the laptop (on 24 / 7). The laptop rarely leaves his apartment and is used for his personal paperwork (checking, letters, etc). I believe that a desktop machine should almost always be left on 24 / 7, and there are no negatives that I know of to doing so. But am uncertain about a laptop. My main concern would be heat buildup and damage. I also am aware that the "Hybernate" function would aleviate this, but that in itself can cause problems. I'd welcome some input, as I'm really not sure and don't want to be responsible for cooking his laptop.
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    Re: Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    It is a very strange question. You can keep the laptop running 24/7 only if several people will use it in shifts 24/7. Otherwise, after some period of inactivity the laptop will put itself into "sleep mode" (this is BIOS setting). If you want to ask, "is it safe to leave the laptop connected to the power and the network", the answer is yes. Just make sure that power adapter (if it is external) is not buried under papers and usual network security measures (firewall, patches, settings) are used.
    The second question is about Hibernate mode. Hibernate mode is similar to Sleep mode, but it is Windows, not BIOS mode. The difference is that in Hibernate mode your laptop does not drain the battery or use power from adapter. If you're running Windows XP, you can always use Hibernate instead of Shut down (except restarting after installing a new program or security patch). Just make sure your hard drive has enough free space (all that you have in memory will be put to the hard drive). It is good idea to defragment the hard drive regularly. Start up your laptop from Hibernate mode is notably faster than from Shut Down mode.
    And for the question "sleep or hibernate", I will say Hibernate, because in very rear occasion when the power can be interrupted (say, blackout) and the battery is run off, you can loose all changes to your open documents.
    I hope I answered your questions.

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    Re: Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    Doc, you may be aware that there are two schools of thought when it comes to how long you leave a computer on: the 24x7 crows, and the shut down every time crowd. I think your concern about heat buildup is a good one; heat is the enemy of electronic components. Personally, I leave my desktop computer running all the time simply because I can't be bothered with a boot cycled every time I want to use it. I do this with most machines that I am responsible for. However, I am well aware that I am likely shortening the life of the electronic components inside. In a laptop this is more critical because everything is packed so tightly.

    Computers have a short shelf life anyway, since speeds and technology tend to make them obsolete after a period of a few years. The question your friend needs to evaluate is whether he wants to go the convenience route and leave it on, or take the chance that he may have to replace the unit sooner rather than later. Then again, he will likely get years of service from it (I had a ThinkPad that put up with this treatment for three years and never suffered).

    All things considered, I would be one to leave it on, and use the suspend/hibernate functionality. Explain his/her options, and make sure that the ultimate responsibility lies with the owner, not the advice provider. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    I have a Sony PCG-FX150 and has been on 7/24 except for the times I am traveling. Just make sure that the it is lifted off the surface so a good flow of air can surround it.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    I use the power management features for my laptop. This will shut down the screen after a relatively short period, and eventually the hard drive. I don't let it shut down the network card or modem. That can cause major confusion when I want to resume work. Because the fan pulls dust through the machine, he might want to vacuum the laptop every so often (the soft brush attachment is best <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> ).

    It helps to have a good firewall or be off the Internet when operating 24x7. Otherwise you never know what's happening with that idle machine!

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    Re: Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    Doc

    I have a deep and abiding hatred of laptops, the engineering compromises they contain, and the raft of problems which they cause, so I would be happy to leave one on, not 24x7, but 0x0.

    (No help to you, but it gets it off my chest!)

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    Re: Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    John, why don't you tell us how you really feel? <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    I leave my wifes Laptop on 24/7,,and have for the last couple years and it has had no problems, nor will it,,unless it's just it's time to go <img src=/S/flatcat.gif border=0 alt=flatcat width=61 height=21> ,,plus I keep it clean and in the open. I do not use Hibernate or Sleep mode,,but to each his own. As for as heat damage to components,,,Contraction and Expansion,,,God I have read more articles on that then I care to remember,,,and what was the conclusion you ask? I can't remember,,I was to dazed and confused by the differences in opinions. What I will tell you is this,, I have seen no Negative side effects to any Computers that I have built or used,,by leaving them on 24/7,,,maybe a slight rise in your electric bill if ya look real, real, real, hard. I like being able to touch a key,,dropping the screensaver with my password,, and going to work. Besides,,, Mark is right,,by the time negative things start happening it's time for a new one anyway. Computers become obsolete 95% of the time before they wear out.{ Speed of Advancing Technology }

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    Re: Laptop - On 24 / 7 Yes or No ??

    My thanks to all who responded. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Too many to answer individually, no insults or slights intended. John..... I'm glad you got that off your chest !!! <img src=/S/scream.gif border=0 alt=scream width=15 height=15>
    I'm one of those 24 / 7 "crows" myself and feel as Mark does that it's a COMPLETE waste of time waiting for a system to boot up when you want to use it. There are no network connections on this (it's his personal machine) and only a dialup connection, soon to be DSL. I set the machine up for him when he first inherited it last year, so it is well protected by a firewall and AV software. He keeps it defragged on a regular maintenance schedule and updates all his software weekly or as needed (or so he tells me <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>). So all said, I believe I'll tell him to leave it on. If it cooks, I'll post back !! <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15>
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