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    Log-in Password Problem

    I switched on my Gateway Laptop after it hadn't been used for some week or two and when I reached the Log-in screen and attempted to enter what I thought was my password, I found it wouldn't accept it $%^&*

    However, by selecting "Cancel", Lo n Behold, it completed the Boot-up !!

    Now, my question is -

    How do I gain access to the "Change Password" function so I can reset my correct Password ?

    And, when I find out how to open this function, what do I enter as the "Old Pasword" ?

    Can anyone guide me please ?

    Awaiting help

    Cheers n Tears
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    This link has pictures>
    http://www.computertips.com/Windows/Windows98/Control Panel/S9971004001.htm

    You will need to scroll down to where it says> From Control Panel, double-click on the Passwords icon.
    Click the Change Passwords tab. As for as what to type in for your old Password,,,try your old Password.
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    Search the hard drive using the Find feature and look for *.pwl. Delete anything that comes up.

    It would also be helpful if you could provide details on what the password box says. Is it "Windows Logon" or "Microsoft Network Logon" or something else entirely?
    -Mark

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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    Mark

    It's a Enter Network Password window

    I don't use the Laptop in a network at present but may do so one day !!

    Can you please tell me what to do now ?

    Cheers n Beers (I hope)
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    I'm not happy to try your remedy Cowboydawg, cos if it doesn't work out, I fear I might not be able to ever get back into my laptop

    See my reply to Mark and then could you please let me have any further thoughts that you think might help me

    Thanks for your help thusfar

    Cheers n Tears
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    <hr>I'm not happy to try your remedy Cowboydawg, cos if it doesn't work out, I fear I might not be able to ever get back into my laptop<hr>

    Sorry,,but thats the only way I know for you to change your Password,,,and If it excepts your old password to change it to a new one,,I don't see the problem or what your concern would be,,but good luck eather way.
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    If you're not logging into a network, then you can easily change the Primary logon in your Network Properties from the control panel. Go to Start - Settings - Control Panel and choose Network, and then select Windows Logon from the drop-down box. On the next reboot, you may be prompted for a password again, but you can leave the password field blank and click OK - and you will not see it again.

    You will need to change the logon type if you ever connect to a network and they require authentication, so bear this in mind.

    Hope that helps,
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    Mark

    Thanks for your advice which I;m sorry to say I didn't exactly follow @#$%^

    I changed to Windows Login OK and rebooted, but being a curious character, I tried what I thought was my correct password in the Windows Login window.

    It didn't work, but hitting the "Cancel" button did, and as previously let me continue to bootup OK

    You'll see my correspondence with Cowboydawg who suggests finding the PWL file/s and deleting them

    I'm not happy to do this unless someone can assure me that doing so won't freeze my Laptop completely

    I therefore seek your further advice

    Thanks in advance

    Cheers n Tears
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    Cowboydawg

    I went to the site and followed your insrtructiona and those on the site but when I got to the "Password" window there is no "Change Password" tab, only "Remote Administration and "User Profiles" #$%^&*

    What has gone wrong with my WIN 98 SE !!

    Any ideas ?

    Awaiting your further help

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    Max

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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    Max, it was I who suggested you delete your PWL files. You can safely delete them; they are only stored password lists. The worst that will happen is that you will need to re-enter any passwords that you have instructed Windows to save for you.

    Leave the password field blank for the Windows logon, instead of entering what you thought it should be. It is completely different than your Microsoft Networking password, which is what you were previously seeing a prompt for.

    Unfortunately I do not have access to a Windows 98 system at the moment so I can't check the exact sequence of events and I'm going based on memory. From what you've posted, it sounds as though you are on the proper course - just don't enter a password on the next reboot, click OK, and it should not prompt you again.
    -Mark

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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    Mark

    I'm sorry Mate, I'm old 'nd BLOODY STOOPID (I'm nearly 75 $%^&*) and I'm making lots of mistakes these days $%^&*

    OK

    Now I've cleared out all the PWL's, there were several going back over the 3 years I've had the Laptop and then rebooted
    and jest "Entered" when the Windows Login window came up, and magic !!

    It booted through OK !!

    Now I have in the Network window -

    Clients for MS Networks Networks
    NetBEUI > 3com 3C920 Integrated Fasr Ethernet Controller
    NetBEUI > Dial-up Adaptor

    Also the TPC/IP links for bothe the above protocols

    Should I remove these ?

    I do use both Dialup and my High Speed Cable connections to get to the Web,etc

    My final question (Ihope) is how do I now go about setting up a new Windows Login Password ?

    Thanks for your patience and help

    Cheers n Tears
    Max

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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    No need to apologise for anything, Max. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Age has nothing to do with the vagaries of computers, except for perhaps the fact that you remember a time before them!

    In the interest of keeping things safe and sound, I would not remove any protocols from the Network window. In theory all you should need is the TCP/IP adapter for the Ethernet controller and Dial-up adapter. That's theory. In reality, there's no way I can promise you that removing the NetBEUI protocols will leave you with the ability to access the Internet. That said, if you feel like tempting the fates, remove them - you can reinstall them later if you need to.

    As it relates to the Windows logon password, I would not bother changing it. The term "password" as used by Microsoft here is really a misnomer. It really does not add any security; Windows 98 is inherently insecure in its design. All it would take for someone to circumvent that password is for them to boot into DOS, delete the PWL files as you did, and reboot. Also, as you found before, you can simply cancel the prompt and get to the desktop anyway. The true purpose of this "password" is to allow for customization, allowing individual users to have their own desktops/wallpapers etc. If you are the sole user of the laptop then it's not a concern.

    Hope that helps...if not, post back! Always glad to help out.

    Cheers and lots of beers....
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    Good Job Mark,,glad ya could help the Old Goat,, <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/gramps.gif border=0 alt=gramps width=20 height=20> Just kidden Max,Just Kidden. Hell,,if I had a dime for everytime I forgot something or lost a hair out of the top of my head,I would be rich,the only problem would be,, I wouldn't be able to remember where I put the damn Dimes. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
    OUCH,,I just called my Granny in my office to read this and she slapped me in the back of my head. <img src=/S/flatcat.gif border=0 alt=flatcat width=61 height=21>
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    Re: Log-in Password Problem

    Mark

    For some reason your reply below doesn't show up in the listing of messages when I click on the URL to go to here #$%^

    Anyway thanks for the education on WIN 98 Passwords $%^&*%^&*
    As long as I learn something new every day I'll keep on fighting !!

    I'll take your advice on leaving thinks as they are and for info I've been able to reset my Bootup Password, even though you advise it ain't worth anything as it at least makes me feel better !!

    Mark, I've had the misfortune to be invovled with computers since 1963 when I joined Collins Wireless Company of Seedy BLOODY Rapids with their Message Switching Systems, etc #$%^&

    Anyway thanks agin for your patience and perservence to helping me get through my problem

    Cheers n a case of Sam Adams
    Max

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