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    Web hosting redux

    I know this has been covered many times in the Lounge, but I wanted to share a few things with the gang. I am preparing to switch hosts and I firstly wanted to toss out the company I am almost certain to go with: Globat. I can't seem to find a better deal anywhere for shared hosting, and they are consistently ranked at the top of the heap in all the reviews I've read.

    I also wanted to toss out a useful resource or two that I used in comparing. One is WebHostingRatings, which has a lot of interesting advice. The other was Top Ten Reviews which has a lot of comparisons and reviews.

    If anyone has any feedback on my chosen provider of the future, I'd appreciate it. If not, I'll be glad to give feedback later on. iPowerWeb has become a <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> word in my life, they used to be wonderful - but any company that filters my email and refuses to do anything about multiple requests to knock it off gets a big black mark in my book. I've lost a lot of legitimate email thanks to their server level filters and they don't seem to care. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

    Hope that's useful to y'all!
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    Re: Web hosting redux

    Mark,

    That looks like a really solid host with some great options and low prices. The only drawback I would see (and this is just me talking here) is that they don't have a Windows option. All of my web development is ASP/ASP.NET so I always have to find a Windows-based host. But for non-Windows, it looks great!

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    Re: Web hosting redux

    I've found non-Windows hosts to be quite a bit cheaper - one of the reasons I switched back-ends. No Microsoft tax. Plus, the tools to develop are all freely available (MySQL, PHP, etc) which again saves me some fees. I can get away with it here since this is for my personal site...as I'm sure you know, if it were for a client, I would not be footing the Microsoft tax!
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    Re: Web hosting redux

    >> Microsoft tax

    That's an interesting way to put it... I sold my soul to the devil (Microsoft, that is <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15>) long ago.

    It's like a drug or something - I need my .NET and SQL Server!!! <img src=/S/brainwash.gif border=0 alt=brainwash width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Web hosting redux

    I guess we can't all be perfect. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> I work with Microsoft's products professionally, but I just could not swallow the price premiums when it came to personal stuff. I confess that I have really grown to like PHPMyAdmin for MySQL databases, it's extremely powerful and fast.
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    Re: Web hosting redux

    Perhaps this is a bit off-topic...

    Do you write your own PHP code? I wouldn't mind learning at some point, just to be out from under the Microsoft umbrella.

    I've read a bit about MySQL. It seems like a great product (the Lounge being a prime example) - my biggest problem with it is the lack of Stored Procedures (a la SQL Server). I am "Mr. Stored Procedure" when it comes to database implementation, especially in the Web world!

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    Re: Web hosting redux

    I know there's been a big surge of PHP code and applications over the past 3-5 years. I understand the original ASP was created around the same time as PHP - perhaps a way for MS to compete with the Open Source movement?

    After spending a while with .NET, I am completely stuck on the concept of separating code from interface. Classic ASP is similar to PHP in that respect - the script code cohabitated with the HTML. ASP.NET is totally different - the source code is normally separate from the HTML, often appearing only in compiled DLLs when in production. It's reasons like this that MS has (and keeps) my full attention! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Web hosting redux

    Point taken. I think the purpose of ASP.NET is quite different than PHP, they have evolved into separate creatures. I like the way that I can embed PHP into a static HTML page for certain things, and it is parsed by the interpreter on the back end. Many of the advanced scripts I have worked with keep the PHP code in separate files which are then called - not unlike a DLL or control - yet they need no compiling at runtime, so they remain fast and light.

    You'll never convince me on the <img src=/S/money.gif border=0 alt=money width=17 height=15> factor though!
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    Re: Web hosting redux

    Off topic? That never happens here in the Lounge. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> Yes, I do write some of my own PHP code, and there are countless scripts that you can download and modify to your heart's content. The photo gallery on my personal site is one such script, and the guestbook is another. I chose the easy way out for those two features simply because of time constraints - writing my own would have meant far longer development time and they still would not look and work as well as they do since I am not a PHP Pro. Yet.

    One great resource for learning PHP is Zend, their server runtime is commonly found on hosts supporting the technology. The other is PHP.net, very comprehensive. Perhaps the greatest appeal of PHP to me is the way it integrates into the code - you use it much like HTML, tags and all. The syntax is similar to C++, so if you know that language it makes the learning curve a bit easier.

    Now see what you've made me do? I'm rambling! <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Web hosting redux

    ASP Classic could use, and occasionally it was better to use, server-side ActiveX controls, either for code sharing or performance reasons, or to keeping proprietary code from prying eyes. I think the "you have the option" model is much better for casual web developers. Why should I learn <choose_your_language>.Net just to do a few database-dependent pages? I hope that ASP Classic lives on for a good long time. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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