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    Odd Problem

    I have Win98SE and lately when I leave my PC on for a while (two to three hours) without using it I find a small white box approximately 1.25 in. high by 4in long in the center of my desktop. In the center of the box on the bottom is the word "Close". I tried to go to the net and could not. I tried to open "My Computer" and received a window telling me there was not enough memory. The only way to get things back to normal is to reboot and everything is fine. Can someone help me with this strange problem. I have run scanreg/fix, scanreg/restore, scan disc, SFC, Defrag, taken the memory boards out and replaced them one at a time, checked for viruses, etc. Nothing seemed to help. Please reply
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    Re: Odd Problem

    I think I know exactly which box that is. It comes up when the system is extremely low on resources, which fits right in with your description of what's happening (nothing works right).

    The causes for this could be many. Firstly, how much RAM is available to Windows? Secondly, how many things have you got running in the background? Something is probably leaking memory, and the key is to find out what that program is, provided you have enough RAM available.

    My first suggestion would be to use MSCONFIG and remove as many non-essential items as possible from startup. See if the problem persists while you're running "lean." If it does, then other causes may need to be looked at. Start with the simple things, though - kill any program not required to run Windows and see what happens.
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    Re: Odd Problem

    Thank you WyllyWylly for your reply. I will run my PC on a lean startup program. I must add that I have a UD (United Devices Agent) running in the background. Have you heard of this program? Could this program be draining my resources? As I said this only happen when I leave my PC running unattended for a few hours. I will be going out today for a while and I will remove all unnecessary items from the start up list and see what happens. I will post back to you with the results.
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    Re: Odd Problem

    WyllyWylly - The same thing happen when I removed everything from Msconfig except the two Load Power profile's,Scan reg, and system tray. Also I removed everything from the Ctrl+Alt+Del except Explorer and Systray. I have 256 Ram 1.1 ghtz proc. Win98SE. Please reply
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    Re: Odd Problem

    United Devices seems to be a program used for grid computing i.e., using your spare computing power with that of others to help solve large processing tasks. Since you don't seem to have much spare computing power I would ditch this one right off. I always thought this was BS anyway. I would find out who put this on there since I, like many others, don't like to let others use my PC, especially give them blanket permission! Have you run AdAware or Spybot S&D?

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    Re: Odd Problem

    I have run SpyBot and Spyware Blaster and removed all that they have found. How would I go about to find out how much of my PC UD is using?
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    Re: Odd Problem

    By seeing how much you get back when you remove it !!
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    Re: Odd Problem

    I will check that out.
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    Re: Odd Problem

    Well, you can google for Aida32 and, if you can still find it, use it to see how much resources any one program is using. Thing with that "grid computing" stuff is you may not really be able to see how it is affecting you until it sits idle for a while. That stuff is designed to use your computer while you are not using it, so the resources it uses might not be readily apparent at first.

    Personally, it would be irrelevant to me how many resources it uses, I would absolutely not, never, no way have it on my system.

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    Re: Odd Problem

    Hi Paul:
    I'm glad you posted this problem. I have always been suspicious of the ISPs & other services that offer a free internet connection or something else in return for only using your computer when you're not. This confirms it. These companies will use as much of your resources as they need, not as much as you can "spare". I agree with Michael completely. Remove UD!!

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    Re: Odd Problem

    I will remove UD after this posting and wait two days and get back to you and let you know if the problem is still here.
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    Re: Odd Problem

    This is to WyllyWylly, MichaelRead, DocWatson and PhilRabichou. I removed UD completely from my system and the Odd Problem disappeared. Thanks guys for your help. I have one more question. How can I add an avatar next to my signature? Please reply
    Catz

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    Re: Odd Problem

    Paulie,

    Glad you got that monkey off your back. <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15> Shared computing efforts are like a bad cold. They just never seem to go away !!!

    I attempted to do the "noble" thing about 3 or 4 years ago, for cancer research. I figured I was on a cable connection and my down-time would be very valuable to the cause. Turned out, most all my CPU cycles were valuable to the cause as well as the fast connection, and once a computation was started, it seemed to always be running in the background & using bandwidth at all hours of the day. This was before AV, AdAware, firewalls etc, so it took about a week of research and information gathering to get the thing off that computer (had to find the right registry hack to remove it).
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    Re: Odd Problem

    To add your user picture, edit your profile. Don't forget to enter the correct password in both boxes. Down at the bottom, click the correct button for userpic and browse for the file on your hard drive. Remember, it has to be no larger than 65 x 75 pixels.
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    Re: Odd Problem

    test
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