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    Summary - PDF freebies

    Following recent PDF discussions, I thought I'd summarize the <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>bies that were mentioned, and others that I know of:

    CutePDF Writer
    pdf995
    PrimoPDF
    Paperless Printer

    A couple of new ones I just heard about:
    Elfima Notepad and Elfima Memo from Elfima
    and for those who like it "hands on" Ghostscript, Ghostview and GSview

    Disclaimer - I have not tried all of these myself, so I don't vouch for any of them!

    Alan

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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> Or buy a Mac. OS X print dialogues all contain print to PDF as an option <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    Personally, I'd rather pay $299 USD for Acrobat than spend roughly $1000 USD on a computer that won't run any of my other software... <img src=/S/razz.gif border=0 alt=razz width=25 height=17>
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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    Ah, you're just jealous. But don't forget that the Mac will run all the versions of the Mac OS from about 7.6 and with the help of a Microsoft product it will also run XP Pro, XP Home and Windows 2000 (amongst others). This should take care of all of your current software, and you might want to check out the reviews for the new Mac version of Office.

    Your absolutely right, it would be folly to buy a Mac just for the pdf print feature, but there may be other reasons <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>. Just ask M. Gris!

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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    Bowlie

    Reasons to buy the Apple Mac? What reasons?!

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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    <hr>Reasons to buy the Apple Mac? What reasons?!<hr>Certainly not for the mountain of <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>ware (or any 3rd party) applications available!

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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    One of the biggest reasons that I moved from Mac to PC many years ago was because of the lack of support for the operating system (AppleII GS at the time) and the limited software that was available for it. I get <img src=/S/sick.gif border=0 alt=sick width=15 height=15> when I think of the amount of <img src=/S/money.gif border=0 alt=money width=17 height=15> <img src=/S/money.gif border=0 alt=money width=17 height=15> <img src=/S/money.gif border=0 alt=money width=17 height=15> I had invested in that system! In the PC world, there is just so much more to choose from! I am one that will not return to the Mac world except to help a friend who may still be stuck in that "world"!! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    ps: <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23> Alan, for sharing your <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>ware finds!!]


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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    Ah, yet another urban myth destroyed. Plenty of software available, although the names may be a little obscure (Microsoft Office, Intuit Quicken, Deltagraph, Adobe, Macromedia, etc). Freeware and Shareware? Plenty available, but I would comment that many of the <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>ware applications I need for my Dell laptop, are already built in to OS X. Oh ya, you won't find many virus checkers or spyware programmes for the Mac. Wonder why <img src=/S/scratch.gif border=0 alt=scratch width=25 height=29>

    P.S. Sorry about <img src=/S/pirate.gif border=0 alt=pirate width=22 height=18> <img src=/S/jollyroger.gif border=0 alt=jollyroger width=29 height=18>ing your post.

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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    Hi Skitter,
    Apple IIgs (Graphics and Sound?) Wow! 1983 or 84 I think, or maybe a year or two earlier. But that was still ProDOS which was pre-mac. I had an Apple IIc in those days and almost upgraded to the IIgs but decided to wait. Good thing too, as the GS was the last of the Apple II range.

    I'm one of the lucky ones, Mac at home, XP in the office so I get to see the best (and worst) of both worlds. I can't think of any programme that is available for the PC that I can't (and haven't) got for my Mac. Because of the smaller market the prices tend to be higher (and with fewer mail-in rebates and other offers) for the software. Microsoft wants CHF779 (US613) for the new version of Office - so it will be some time before I upgrade.

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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    I guess the terms "plenty of" and "<big>mountains of</big>" need to be somehow quantified to make a meaningful comparison here. I've probably run across a few dozen (genuine freeware) for Mac over the years, as opposed to a few thousand for PCs.<hr>Oh ya, you won't find many virus checkers or spyware programmes for the Mac. Wonder why<hr>I guess that even virus writers are looking for a ROI and wouldn't bother targetting an OS used on less than 5% of all computers (but it could be done - don't be deluded about that). However, if Apple's QuickTime player is anything to go by, then it's "already built in" as you say, in the form of some of the most insidious system hijacking software I've ever had the misfortune to come across.
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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    Hi Bowlie,

    It does seem that people who are smitten with the Mac products will defend them and we PC users will extol the virtues of our favorite O/S. I doubt that either will change the other's thinking about it. My son-in-law is a very Mac person and won't even look at my PC or his wife's. As I mentioned, my gripe was the lack of support, which disappeared almost before the 1st year of ownership, and the scarcity of software for use on the Mac. The graphics were great but things show up fine on my PC too! I just needed more software to choose from and for it to be a bit less costly to buy and maintain! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    <hr>I doubt that either will change the other's thinking about it<hr>
    Not with rabid, baseless arguing, certainly. I like to <img src=/S/razz.gif border=0 alt=razz width=25 height=17> Bowlie but one thing I would dearly love to have is a Mac with ProTools for music recording. Macs have a (declining) edge in creativity software and with graphics professionals. It really is sad to see it going downhill; Adobe abandoned the Mac platform because it was simply not economically viable to develop and maintain two separate code bases when one of those was decidedly insignificant to the bottom line. Other developers have followed suit. The hardware has not kept pace with the x86 platform. Easy to see why: the Mac environment is closed to outsiders, and the PC industry became what it was because of open standards and competition.

    As it stands Apple appears to have ceased active development on operating systems and is becoming more focused on consumer items like the iPod. I hope they succeed in the consumer device space because their stuff is indeed good - but if history is any guide, competitors will offer similar goods at lower costs. Apple hardware is like a Mercedes or an Aston Martin...turns a lot of heads, well made, really shiny - and really damned expensive.
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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    ... and there are some of us, apparently quite few, who use and appreciate both. Mid 80s was a tough time for Apple, and I'm sorry you didn't get the support you needed then. The Apple IIgs was a quantum leap over the IIe, but paled in comparison to Lisa, and the Mac which came along soon after.

    As you observe much of the world is either/or but not both and it is seldom a 'rational' argument. Sorta like comparing apples to ...

    Once again, apologies to Alan for <img src=/S/pirate.gif border=0 alt=pirate width=22 height=18>ing his post - this would have been better in Scuttlebutt.

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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    PC vs. Mac - just like politics and religion. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/flee.gif border=0 alt=flee width=25 height=25>
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    Re: Summary - PDF freebies

    Not a problem. It puts a whole new slant on the term <img src=/S/pirate.gif border=0 alt=pirate width=22 height=18>-ed software.

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