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    Opera and Windows Update (Opera 7.52)

    I purchased and installed Opera 7.52 yesterday. So far, I am quite impressed but I have two questions.

    1) Today (using IE) I went to the Windows Update site and scanned for updates. 19 Critical updates were found. I know for a fact that every one of the updates had been applied previously, but I proceeded and reinstalled the updates. After a reboot, I checked again and KB828026 (critical update for Windows Media Player Script Commands) was listed again. I installed this one again (twice more) but each time I scan for updates, this one is still listed. My question - has any other Opera user experienced this behaviour, and if so, is there a solution?

    2) Do Adaware, Spybot or SpywareBlaster support Opera? If not, does this mean that Opera will allow adware and malware to be installed on my computer?
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    Re: Opera and Windows Update (Opera 7.52)

    1) Did these updates begin to appear in Windows Update after installing Opera, or had they been there previously? I doubt that Opera has much if anything to do with it; my personal opinion is that the Windows Update mechanism is far from perfect. Even the Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer tool cannot tell for certain what patches have been applied.

    2) Adaware and the others scan your local system, files and registry more than they do the browser itself. That said, they should work just fine regardless of your choice in browser software. By using Opera you are avoiding the exploits and holes that Internet Explorer opens up through Browser Helper Objects and ActiveX controls, which are the typical targets for ad/malware.

    Even knowing that, it does not mean Opera will or will not allow ad and malware to be installed on your computer. You should still consider running those tools on a regular basis, and always be vigilant when visiting websites. The cretins that create this garbage continually seek out new ways to foist their wares upon the unsuspecting user.
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    Re: Opera and Windows Update (Opera 7.52)

    Mark,
    Yes, these updates appeared the first time I went to the Windows Update site following the installation of Opera. I visit this site on almost a daily basis just to make sure that I am not missing any security updates (I don't have my system set to automatically download and install updates). I agree that the Baseline Security Analyzer is flawed, but up until now, I have had success with Windows Update itself. I had "personalized" the Windows Update site so that several updates which I do not require did not appear on the list of updates. Following the Opera installation, all of these updates (as well as the critical updates) reappeared. ???

    Glad to hear that Adaware & the others will still work properly. And yes, I will continue to use these tools regularly. I run them on a daily basis and will continue to do so.
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    Re: Opera and Windows Update (Opera 7.52)

    Odd that Opera's installation would cause this. But then many things about computers are odd, no? <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    First, take a look at your C:WINDOWSWindows Update.log file and see if there are any clues. If not, then the next thing I would suggest trying is to move the contents of Program FilesWindowsUpdateV4 to a temporary location, leaving the original folder intact. You could also open the IUHIST.XML file in your browser and see if there is anything there, but it may just be easier to leave it alone and let it be rebuilt on your next visit to Windows Update. What I am suggesting here should clear the history of Windows Update and allow your system to be scanned fresh. I don't know how excited you are about applying the updates again, but it may make them go away...

    The personalization is kept in a cookie by IE. You may want to clear the browser cache and cookies and give it a whirl to see if your settings are retained.
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    Re: Opera and Windows Update (Opera 7.52)

    No, I'm not thrilled about reapplying all of the updates but I will if nothing else works. Can't do this today but I will post back with the results when I follow your instructions. Thanks Mark.
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    Re: Opera and Windows Update (Opera 7.52)

    Hi Rebel,

    Maybe you could get the MS Update disk? ? It is almost a year behind now but at least it would be a place to start from! Sure would be nice if they would put out another one. <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Opera and Windows Update (Opera 7.52)

    Hi Skitterbug,
    Think I'll wait until SP2 is released. It's coming any day now isn't it <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> ????? This whole issue is an inconvenience rather than something critical. As I said, the only update that Windows Update insists is NOT installed is KB828026. However, I checked all of the files which it is supposed to update and they are all the correct versions. Thanks for the suggestion.
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