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    NTFS??? (XP SP-1)

    I just happened to remember/realize, that if I'm going overt toXP, I'm into the NTFS question / issue again.

    I had such an ordeal with NTFS when I went to Win 2K, do *have* to use it with XP?I *know* it's more suecure... which on a home network means not much...

    But not having access to the ol' dos tools CAN mean something...

    S-o-o-o, whatcha think?

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    Re: NTFS??? (XP SP-1)

    Depends on how large your system's partitions are. NTFS will make better use of the space on partitions larger than about 10-15 GB. It is also a journaling file system, which makes it a better choice for other reasons. Take a look at this thread where the topic was exhaustively discussed.
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    Re: NTFS??? (XP SP-1)

    Mark:

    It all looks good in the thread(s) and the stats... but ... I don't know if you recall, but I had a whole fiasco, where I had NTFS, and I got a virus, and none of the DOS tools were any good (obviousy), and I totally felt like a fis out of water...

    What do ya do to find security? Do backup programs with Win2K recognize the files (for backup)? I know (from experience) that Ghost sees NTFS files...

    I think I'm getting heartburn...

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    Re: NTFS??? (XP SP-1)

    I recall your fiasco, and it's understandable that you are looking to avoid the same thing all over again. I still think you should take the plunge and give NTFS a shot.

    As far as backup programs, Windows 2000 will not understand backups created using the built-in MSBACKUP utility, it changes with every version of Windows. I use Acronis TrueImage for backups and I love it, Ghost is no longer in my arsenal. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> On my recent reinstall of XP, I installed SP1, then my firewall, and then my virus scanner (NAV 2004). After that I proceeded to patch everything else. Thus far... no problems. <img src=/S/crossfingers.gif border=0 alt=crossfingers width=17 height=16> Everything is NTFS now, as well.
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    Re: NTFS??? (XP SP-1)

    Chuck,
    I'll echo Mark's sentiments. Take the NTFS plunge. You'll be better for it in the long run.

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    Re: NTFS??? (XP SP-1)

    Chuck

    I don't know what "old DOS tools" you're referring to, but I've been using DOS editors (IBM PC-DOS's E editor), file viewers (Vernon Buerg's LIST) and the like ever since the days of NT 3.50 on NTFS-formatted partitions! The very low level stuff (like Steve Gibson's SpinRite*) can't handle them, but other than that, if you're working at file level, there's no problem. You can read NTFS-formatted partitions from DOS (as in MS-DOS 6.22, say) using SysInternals' NTFSDOS and if you pay money, you can also write NTFS files from DOS, too!

    When we first started using NT, we kept our partitions as FAT, both because the NTFS file system was new, and because the disk sizes were fairly small, but now I don't think I've seen a FAT-formatted hard disk for megayonks**!

    John

    * The latest version of Spinrite when booted from their DOSsy operating system can read NTFS disks

    ** A "yonk" is an ill-defined unit of time; a megayonk is a much larger, but still ill-defined, amount of time ...
    which enables me to bring out, again, my rather clever definition:
    <big>One milliHelen is "that quantity of facial beauty sufficient to launch a single ship."</big>
    <font face="Script MT Bold"><font color=blue><big><big>John</big></big></font color=blue></font face=script>

    Ita, esto, quidcumque...

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    Re: NTFS??? (XP SP-1)

    John:

    SMBP had pointed me toward NTFSDOS some time back... during my prior NTFS debacle. Just went there... a little slow on the up take, I couldn't figure the pricetag on the Pro edition...

    Maybe what I did wrong was to try and apply FAT32 habits to an NTFS environment. I did that when Win95 first came out... tried to use a FAT16 defrag on my drive... took days to straighten out that one.

    I suppose I just need to plan properly. Because I have *no* doubt I will run into file issues... I did during the last episode, which is what, in a fit of panic, I tried to cure in a wrong manner...

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