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    30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    This seems to work pretty well. I am perturbed that I do not get to specify Trusted and Restricted sites for purposes of Java and JavaScript. I think it's strange to have exquisite control over cookies (can't hardly do any harm), but not active content. Also, I find claims of enhanced security somewhat strange when scripting is fully enabled by default, and web sites can install software by default. But anyway, maybe I'll get over it. Some general thoughts:

    <UL><LI>Oh yes, the "details" panel of the cookies dialog stays open!

    <LI>The Ctrl+Right Arrow navigation works differently than IE when it comes to stopping for punctuation snugged up to a word. I can't quite figure out the rule... I'm sure I will get used to it.

    <LI>Can I somehow import my "good and evil" cookie sites list from IE? Hmmm... must investigate.

    <LI>No mouse wheel scrolling of the whole page while cursor is in this TEXTAREA. I had gotten used to that in IE6.

    <LI>Doesn't let me accept all session cookies automatically. Maybe I need to change my strategy.

    <LI>Nice not to be bothered by those "don't leave our site" pop-ups. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>[/list]Still learning my way around, I'm sure I'll have lots of questions.

    Added: The Page Info dialog is excellent! Only one wish here: let the user open a link from the links tab.

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    Could I ask you why you made the switch, Jefferson? I downloaded and installed the same version of Firefox yesterday after reading the security articles in the latest and newer version of Woody's Windows Watch but I'm wondering if my combination of Ad-aware, SpywareBlaster and Spyware Guard don't keep me as protected in Explorer in spite of the endless security exploits.

    Concerning your general thoughts/observations, I had the google toolbar installed on Explorer and when Firefox installed, it recognized the add-on and put its own version of the google toolbar on Firefox. However, I notice that there is no way to clear the search history on the toolbar here in Firefox as I could in the Explorer version. Any similar experiences from other users?

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    That Google box in FireFox is standard Tony, it wasn't a add-on because you had the Google Toolbar installed for IE.
    Christopher Baldrey

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    I am much more "trying it out" than "switching in [fear|anger|disgust|protest]."

    It infuriates me that Ctrl+UpArrow does not do what it does in IE (and Word), which is to go to the beginning of the current or preceding paragraph. And having to click outside this TEXTAREA in order to scroll to the Preview button with the mouse wheel is annoying. (Actually, I can press Tab and then scroll, that's not quite so bad, as I'm tying anyway...)

    Other than that, and some occasionally faults with the screen repainting tables, it seems to work smoothly. Being able to open 7+ threads with updates by Ctrl+clicking them is a fantastic timesaver.

    Regarding the built-in Google box, I just always go to Google.com to search. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    I assume the google toolbar you mention is the search bar on the top right next to the address bar.

    As an alternative you could use the Googlebar extension. It replicates most of the features of Google toolbar for IE.

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    That's interesting, Chris. How then did that Google box keep a cache of recent searches done on Google in IE? I type "a" and I get "Andy Warhol" in the drop down box of recent search topics. Is there any way to erase this (not that I'm trying to hide interest in Warhol, but I like to keep my caches clean)?

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    That is interesting Tony. I haven't used the IE Google Toolbar, so I didn't realize that caching happened in IE, let alone across the browser border into FireFox. Interesting indeed...
    Christopher Baldrey

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    I let Firefox import my browser history from IE. You too? I don't know whether that would have done it, or whether the Google toolbar entries are part of a different data file...

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    I have successfully deleted the Google toolbar entries via Firefox by:
    Tools > Options > Privacy > Saved Form Information
    and then clearing the checkbox for "Save information I enter in web page forms and the Search Bar"
    Whether this is the correct and only way to delete the Google toolbar entries, I don't know.

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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    FWIW I line the tabs up along the side of the page - as it gives me cleaner access to the tab bar & deciding how many tabs I wish to close. Also, you can use a middle button click (as opposed to Ctrl + click) to open links - saving a few more milliseconds!
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    Re: 30 minutes with FireFox ((FF 0.9.2))

    This is what I did as well and following sarmelc's advice, I went to the saved forms entry in the security option and cleared the history, thus clearing the history of the search bar. What's intriguing is where this information came from before. The IE Google toolbar must be part of the IE history files. Note, however, that the actual Google toolbar (and not the search bar with the Google logo on the Firefox browser) in both Firefox and IE contains a drop down menu in which you can clear the search history. Not that we need to spend days on this question, but it's interesting to see how information you thought you'd erased still manages to sneak through your system.

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