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    Enlarging a Parition (XP Pro (SP1))

    I've been rereading "Windows XP Annoyances" by David A. Carp. He mentions that one can make a partition larger without losing the data. What do people think about this idea. I sent of a request to Acronis about Disk Director but haven't heard anything back. I have five partitions on Drive 0:

    1. C:system
    2. H:Temp
    3. k:key
    4. L:workingbackup
    5. O:download

    I have backups of K:, L: and O: - only Key has critical information - notes and files for the system. Could I make a drive image of C: , remove H:temp and extend C: to fill up the space. Did I ask this question before. Either I did or this is deja vu. But is it doable or suicidal?

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    Chris

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    Re: Enlarging a Parition (XP Pro (SP1))

    Yes, you did ask the question <!post=in this post,,397008>in this post<!/post> but that's OK as long as you don't start jumping back to that previous post. Stick to this one and we'll be alright. First, let me say what I know you know: NEVER start any partitioning work on a PHSYCAL drive unless you have backed up whatever is of any value. I've never lost anything, but there's always a first time! I've been a long-time user of Partition Magic but have just this week bought Acronis Disk Director as a replacement and have only looked at its method of operation so far. It seems to "work" in a similar fashion to Partition Magic. So, you should be able to make a partition larger, whether you delete one to make room, or shrink its size. Sometimes you might have to use the "Move" command to shift things around so that the empty space is just to the right (contiguous) of the partition you wish to enlarge. I don't know if you realize this, but PM (so I assume Disk Director too) makes it look on-screen like the things you do are happening immediately when in fact it's storing the operations in a "queue" to be implemented either when you tell it so or when you're ready to exit. Because of this, I have a personal preference for making it implement changes after each one or two things I do, so they won't all pile up until the end. Kind of like super-caution on my part I guess.

    Edited: I forgot to say that if your list is a true one and Temp is just to the "right" of C: the job should be easy. Secondly, don't be discouraged about Acronis. They must be swamped with multi-new versions of products just out. It has taken a number of us quite some time to hear from them. Remember, you CAN'T make changes with Disk Director's trial version!

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    Re: Enlarging a Parition (XP Pro (SP1))

    Thanks Big Al, I haven't downloaded the Acronis trial version yet. I was wondering if it were possible to extend the partition just with Windows XP. using the command "extend" from the command prompt? The information about the position of the partitions came from the Computer Management Console.

    Chris

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    Re: Enlarging a Parition (XP Pro (SP1))

    Sorry Chris, I'm not familiar with the extend command. Where did you see it or learn of it, please? Anyway, I don't know of any way to do what you want with the OS. I'm 99.9% sure that if you do anything offline, like with FDISK, that you WILL lose all data. If you already own Partition Magic, I'm sure you could use it successfully, but as I said, if you get the Acronis Disk Director Trial, you won't be able to "commit" any changes.

    Edited: I think I found it. If you're talking about the extend parameter of the diskpart command, I'm sorry I've never used it. We'll need to wait to see if an "experienced" Lounger shows up to add comments.

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    Re: Enlarging a Partition (XP Pro (SP1))

    David Carp mentions the command on p459-460 of "Windows XP Annoyances ". I check Windows help (Should try that more often) and found this entry:

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    Extends the volume with focus into next contiguous unallocated space. For basic volumes, the unallocated space must be on the same disk as, and must follow (be of higher sector offset than) the partition with focus. A dynamic simple or spanned volume can be extended to any empty space on any dynamic disk. Using this command, you can extend an existing volume into newly created space.

    If the partition was previously formatted with the NTFS file system, the file system is automatically extended to occupy the larger partition. No data loss occurs. If the partition was previously formatted with any file system format other than NTFS, the command fails with no change to the partition.

    You cannot extend the current system or boot partitions.

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    Since I was wanting to extend C: drive extend will not work. Incidentally it can be done from command prompt or the Management Console. So the only way is to get something like Disk Director or Partition Magic. Guess I'll wait to hear from Acronis.

    Chris

    PS Is it possible to use Drive Image to restore an image to a different location or to the same partition that has been enlarged in size?

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    Re: Enlarging a Partition (XP Pro (SP1))

    <hr>...Is it possible to use Drive Image to restore an image to a different location or...partition that has been enlarged in size? <hr>
    Yup, it sure is. That's how people migrate to "larger disks" whether they be standalone HDDs or larger partitions. The messages and/or prompts you get from Drive Image can sometimes be a little confusing, but it does work.

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    Re: Enlarging a Partition (XP Pro (SP1))

    So that means one possibility is to make an image of my existing drive C:, format it and join it together with drive H: and then reinstall the drive image. In a way I would be migrating to a larger drive except it would be the same drive! I guess I'll hang on for a bit and see if I hear anything from Acronis. If you do try out Disk Director please let me know how it goes.

    All the best,

    Chris

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    Re: Enlarging a Partition (XP Pro (SP1))

    Chris,

    If you already own Partition Magic, then I'd use that to do ANY partition work on a drive with data on it. Any other method, prior to Acronis Disk Director, will trash the data. However, if you don't own a copy of Partition Magic, I would suggest (based on my use of Acronis True Image as a replacement for PowerQuest's Drive Image) that you give serious consideration to the new Acronis product. True Image is head-and-shoulders above Drive Image (IMHO) and I would expect that Disk Director would provide a similar improvement in interface, reliability and speed of task completion. The trial version might be worth a look. If only to see if you preferr the interface and useability.

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