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    Programs of similar use?

    Hi everyone,
    I am in desperate need of space on my hard drives and now is not the time to buy a new one. I also hate clutter and have let this machine get out of control (not only user.) Can't reformat at this time either. I have attached a file that shows the Control Panel of my computer. It seems like I have many programs that do similar things yet I do not know which are necessary. I want to be able to browse the internet without having problems but some of these items seem like overkill (the Java program is 107.00MB alone.) I have tried to look up some of the entries by name but still do not understand their uses. Inet pub anyone? Would somebody please take a look at this and offer some advice? One more question; on Windows XP, are everyone's control panels different???

    Thanks, as always.

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    You forgot to post the attachment?

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    Help! Even when I split the file in half and create .pdf's I'm still over 100k. Now what?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    I would approach this in two ways:

    1) by using either TreeInfo or TreeSize Professional (download an evaluation copy) to find the <big>largest</big> directories and/or files to see whether any can be removed

    2) by deciding which applications, etc, can be removed because you know they aren't needed (Control Panel => Add/Remove Programs is a good place to look).

    There is little point spending lots of time in finding that you can get rid of 10 MB of files - you're looking for Large Numbers!

    Running either TreeInfo (a DOS-type program) or preferably TreeSize Pro (a GUI with the ability to drill down - sort by Size) will give you hard information! Possibly the Temporary Internet Files folders will be large? Or maybe the System Volume Information (if ME or XP) files are huge (I know mine are!)?

    Download, run, and be amazed.

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    Here is the first screen shot.

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    And now the second.

    John, I will try to do as you suggested, however, <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15> I question my own abilities!

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    I don't know why - you've managed to create some PDFs!

    Were you to try TreeSize Pro and get it to expand the Program Files directory you'd be able to see how much disk space many of these applications take. Lots of these you must keep, because you probably need them for your hardware, and also your software. Eliminate these, and ask about the questionable ones (but as I said, if one occupies only a few tens of MB, it's not worth worrying about!).

    You never said how big your hard disk was, and how full?

    John

    PS You could produce a file (C:ProgFile.TXT) showing how big each Program Files folder was by running, in a Command Prompt window,
    treeinfo "crogram files" > crogfile.txt
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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    To try to answer your last query first, administrators will see more entries in control panel than non-administrators. Now to the more pressing issue of disk space. Have you limited each user's temporary internet file size? Do you have hibernation turned on and not ever use it? Have you cleaned up the temp directory under each user? It appears from your list that there is not an excessive amount of programs installed. It noticed the Kodak picture program. Has anyone been storing a lot of pictures on the PC? They can eat disk space like a little kid eats candy.

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    In addition to above, I see that you Napster installed, is it set up to be a "Server" if so what space is being used as the server?

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    Hi all,
    I did download Tree Size Professional and am trying to figure that out; it did suggest that I change from FAT32 to NTFS so I checked Woody's XP for you know who <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> and found that it was advisable so I did the conversion on both hard drives.
    The only thing I have noticed is that I am running much more slowly . . .
    Napster is the new Napster; not the music sharing version just basically a music store.
    The Java program that is listed in the Control Panel is 107.00MB - is that necessary? It is bigger than most programs I use for business!
    Thanks again - I'm still working on it...

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    Java is only needed if you access a web site that uses it. If you search around you could find a copy of the old MS JVM but it has not been enhanced in years. You'd be better off sticking with the Sun JVM.

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    The file sizes in the Add/Remove programs control panel are known to be somewhat inaccurate. However, the standard Java Runtime Environment package does include some files (maybe source code) that you probably don't need. Whether it's worth fishing around for that, I'm not sure... also, I think 107MB just seems wrong (see attached).

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    On my system the add/remove dialog shows Java as 108MB (version 1.4.2_05)
    The C:Program FilesJava folder is 34MB so that leaves about 74MB stored elsewhere if the add/remove dialog value is correct.
    The download file to install Java is about 15MB so that must use a very efficient compression routine if it does expand to 108MB

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    I don't have the latest version, apparently. I do remember that Sun had a big download for developers by default, so perhaps I passed on that one?? Anyway, here's the most infamous example of out-of-whack size that I know about. Canon said they couldn't fix it!

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    Re: Programs of similar use?

    On my system, Karen's Directory Printer takes up 1.41 MB in reality, but the Add/Remove Programs control panel reports 6,349.00 MB <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>

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