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    Failed Install--Kind Of

    I am trying to install WIN98, Second Edition, Upgrade. I have a 333MHz machine with 192M RAM and an 8.2g Hard Drive. The install process hangs immediately after the first 're-start'--where WIN98 attempts to build a driver directory. The only way I have been able to get beyond this step is to do the Ctrl-Alt-Del sequence. The second line in the dialog box says "Cpd not responding." So I end this task and the installation proceeds, except that I cannot connect to the Internet once WIN98 is installed. I have a 3Com LAN card connected to my cable modem that works just fine with WIN95. The device works correctly. With WIN98 installed, I've removed the LAN card and re-started. WIN98 recognizes and re-installs it, but I still cannot connect. All lights are 'green' on my modem and the hub I use to connect two computers (individually) to the same cable modem. This is repeatable. It happened three times with the first copy of WIN98 that I bought and, so far, has happened three times with a second, replacement copy that I got from the merchant. What might I do to get a fully-functional upgrade to WIN98? Do I really have to wipe out and partition my hard drive, an approach M'soft has said is valid? Or should I just forget about the upgrade and stick to my WIN95 system, where everything continues to work just fine? Thanks for any suggestions, comments, recommendations, commiserations, and so on.

    George M.

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    Re: Failed Install--Kind Of

    Hmm... You say you have 98SE Upgrade? How long ago did you purchase it? 98SEUpgrade has been discontinued, you can only purchase the full version at this point...

    IF you have the Windows 95 CD, you may reformat your hard drive. I would recommend this. It sounds like your installations are choking on bad sectors or other anomalies within the hard disk, or hardware configuration. The only way to know for sure, is to re-format your disk, (in it's entirety.)

    There are many benefits to this approach, despite the time it takes to move/backup your pertinent data. Windows 9x is a nutorious packrat. It saves a little bit of everything, everywhere. Although the OS itself generally knows where everything is, it quite often forgets. (The browser page you're looking at now will leave trace elements on your machine until you re-format it, the same applies to everything you do on your computer...) Reformatting supplies you with a 'clean slate' of sorts, to build upon. It's a lot of work, and generally takes anywhere from 3-9 hours, but it's well worth the time.

    I re-do my system at home at least once a month, from the ground up. I have an older 1GB hard disk I've installed as a slave, and where I backup my pertinent data. This way, I can reformat my disk anytime, without the risk of losing anything.

    You will want to stop by <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.bootdisk.com>www.bootdisk.com</A> to get the appropriate boot/setup disk. You're looking for one with DOS, a Rom driver, and fdisk.

    This leads to partitioning. With fdisk, you can partition your hard drive to increase efficiency. Files take up more space on an 8.+ GB hard disk than they do on a 2.x GB disk. As a rule of thumb, I never partition a drive more than three times, (I prefer two, C: and D this is just to say, redoing your system may warrant a re-design of your system as well.

    Hope this helps!
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    Re: Failed Install--Kind Of

    If you do get the Win98 working, please post a message and tell us how. I have tried to install Win98 (the full version, not an upgrade) and had the same problems as you describe - and more. My display would not work in anything but basic 640x480 mode, no internet via my LAN card, printer problems, etc. I did try reformatting my C drive (in fact I had to in order to get my Win95 to work again). That did not help. I suspect there are driver issues. Fortunately I have a tape drive so restoring Win95 was not too terrible. But restoring from a Win95 CD could have been a big problem because of all the missing security patches and other enhancements that have been added to that base Win95.

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    Re: Failed Install--Kind Of

    Solution Found--Hello Lou. The symptom was that even though WIN982E eventually installed, I had no Internet connection. The install always, always hung at the 'building driver directory' phase after the very first re-start--with 'Cpd not responding' being the message I got with Ctrl-Alt-Del. Ok, 'cpd' refers to my McAfee personal firewall. Instead of just disabling this or turning it off, I followed the McAfee documentation and completely uninstalled the firewall. They specify using the program's uninstall and not the Control Panel; very picky about this. Anyway, I uninstalled the firewall and then upgraded to WIN982E. Everything went fine; took about 35 minutes. After I checked everything out, I re-installed the firewall. Everything seems to be ok. I hope this helps.

    George M.

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    Re: Failed Install--Kind Of

    Thanks, George. I have the BlackIce firewall, but I am guessing the same problem exists. I'll give it a try.

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