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    What to buy?

    For some time now, I've been meaning to get a copy of VB6 Pro for home use (I only have v.5, not installed at present). I'm not familiar with all the ways in which this is "bundled", but I believe that it's included with Visual C++, which would also be a nice addition if the total cost is not much more.

    I'm having trouble locating much of anything on these packages - it's all .NET now, which I'm totally unfamiliar with. What's more, the VS.NET Pro 2003 suite seems so cheap (academic price, which I qualify for) that it seems ludicrous entertaining the purchase of, for instance, VB6 Pro for around $200 on e-bay.

    My base requirement is VB6 Pro, with a VC++ tossed in as an option. If the .NET stuff covers all this, well & good. If not, any recommendations?

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    Re: What to buy?

    Alan,
    MS introduced syntactical changes to VB with the .NET incarnation of the language. You may want to start looking at Visual Studio Home for more information. If you can get Visual Studio at an academic rate I see no reason to bother with acquiring VB by itself. I'd be careful about developing in VB6 with the never ending march to .NET and a web services architecture.

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    Re: What to buy?

    Thanks Joe. The main reason I'd like VB6 at home is to use in association with applications of the Office 2000 vintage; nothing in the way of serious development of distributed applications. But I'm guessing that the syntactical changes you speak of might create problems in this context, and that VB6 might be the most appropriate?

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    Re: What to buy?

    Well, if it is for home use I'd stick with what would cause the least problems in the long run. I suppose I'm not clear on what you mean by "in association with". If it is an independent application I don't see what difference the VB release would make. In which case, I'd probably opt for the newer - for support reasons if nothing else.

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    Re: What to buy?

    VBPro didn't come with any other language, Alan. At least, my copy didn't. Both languages came with Visual Studio 6, but I can't say what might have come with VC++. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
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    Re: What to buy?

    "In association with" came to mind thinking of, for example, a VB frontend to an Access database. I'm more concerned, now you mention it, with possible "issues" with Win 98SE, which I don't have plans to update in the foreseeable. How would the newer packages/ suites manage with my older O/S.

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    Re: What to buy?

    Thanks Charlotte. I may have had my wires crossed on this, relating what I heard at work. The person may, indeed, have been speaking of VS when he said that "you get VB with VC++ nowadays anyway". It sounds more likely too! I've hardly used VC++, being an adherent to LCC at home and Borland both at home and work. But VC++ Is something I really should become more familiar with, so I'm already leaning towards a package/ suite regardless.

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    Re: What to buy?

    If you aren't planning to update to at least Win2k, forget Visual Studio.Net.
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    Re: What to buy?

    Hmmm <img src=/S/hmmn.gif border=0 alt=hmmn width=15 height=15>... I feared as much with .NET. I suppose then, that the nearest I'll get is one of the earlier versions of Visual Studio (if that's what it was called back then) that bundles VB6 Pro with the equivalent vintage of VC++. I'm guessing that such a thing exists (probably what was recommended to me at work) but the problem might be sourcing it... and at the right price.

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    Re: What to buy?

    Sounds as though you are looking for Visual Studio 6, which probably has been discontinued. One way to get it is to buy a one-year MSDN subscription at the Professional or higher level. There is a link from PriceGrabber to AtomicPark.com that supposedly sells the "Universal" version for $1375. Since this includes lots of MS Products, including all development tools, Office 2003 Professional Enterprise Edition, Bells & Whistles 2005 (and access to even more from the web), it can be a good value for some people. (When your one year subscription comes to an end, your licenses remain valid, but you don't get any upgrades unless you cough up the over $2000 renewal fee.)

    Added: You qualify for Academic Pricing? This is sweet: under $800 at Newegg.com.

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    Re: What to buy?

    Thanks Jefferson. It sounds like an interesting possibility, but perhaps still over budget for my meagre home usage. But I think you've zeroed in on VS 6 as the probable recommendation mentioned to me. I know little of all of the variants of this, and the seemingly huge asking price variation on e-bay listings like this don't help. Could you suggest a specific version e.g. Pro Edition?

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    Re: What to buy?

    First, I don't do online auctions, so I have no way to knowing whether any of those prices are fair or reasonable or trustworthy, etc. The retail price is more in the range of US$700.

    Second, there were two editions of Visual Studio 6, Professional and Enterprise; you can compare features here, but as you can guess from the names, you won't need the Enterprise edition.

    If you're looking for an AU vendor, maybe this one will turn out to be good?

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    Visual Studio Pro 6.0 Win32 English Intl AE CD Refresh FV
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    Re: What to buy?

    Looks like I'm pretty much full circle - either VS Pro 6 or VB Pro 6. I'll continue my hunt. Re: online auctions and legitimacy, I stumbled on one that might be pushing the envelope a bit:

    "Windows 98SE Operating System, still shrinkwrapped, unused, with CD, Floppy Disk, Manual and COA Sticker. OEM version (For distribution with a new PC only). Believe you can sell it with a piece of hardware so will include 1x8mb 72pin ram. $78 includes express post anywhere in Australia.

    Price: $78


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    Re: What to buy?

    Last I checked, you could still get the critters at http://www.atomicpark.com.

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    Re: What to buy?

    Correct.

    Office is the only reason I use VB 6, and it is MUCH easier to use with Office than VB .NET.


    Also, once you get VB, or VS 6, you'll qualify for upgrade pricing to .NET.

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