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    Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    Crew,

    What's involved in moving my e-mail client from Outlook Express to Outlook. I want to be able to send & receive e-mail in the same manner as I do now...& also have the extra capabilities (Calendar, etc.)

    Is Outlook available from Microsoft as a download (like Outlook Express)...or obtained off-the-shelf?
    Can I simply install Outlook, migrate settings, options & folders; & then kill OE? How does this work?

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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    Very briefly, Outlook is obtained off the shelf and was only briefly ever a free download. You can obtain it standalone. It also ships in AFAIK every Microsoft Office package. You can use Outlook to import everythiung from OE and then have Outlook (and not OE) poll your mail server. OE is in fact part of IE. So, although you can put it to deep sleep, you cannot completely uninstall it. Also, if you use Newsgroups, you will have to use OE as Outlook does not have that one capability. HTH
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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    If you have one of the Office Suites, Outlook is included and you can load it from there. It appears that it's available standalone, see for example MS Outlook $39.95 in the US.

    Outlook has tools to import your addressbook and messagebase from OE. However it doesn't import your messaging accounts, rules, customizations, and possibly other settiings, you have to re-set those up from scratch.
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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    unk & John,

    Thanks.

    If it can't do newsgroups...I don't want it.

    I suppose I should just get an apointment calender/reminder app. Any ideas?

    Thanks again,

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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    I use Outlook, but only because I have to.

    Why don't you try Thunderbird?

    http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

    Anything, fer heaven's sakes, just migrate off of Express ASAP.

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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    You may prefer Thunderbird to Outlook, and that's fine. But a statement such as "just migrate off of Express ASAP" without any rationale or backup is not really helpful to anyone. Do you have any particular reasons to shed OE if it performs adequately for some users?
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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    You're a little testy tonight, arntcha?

    I have yet to work with a client (including many individuals) whose long-term interests are served by using Express. Most of my clients use either Outlook or Eudora, and I'm eager for some critical feedback on Thunderbird (which I've never used) before I recommend it to any of them.

    .dbx files alone are reason enough to abandon Express in a major hurry. Not to mention the utter lack of useful features.

    I'm fairly happy with Outlook as my personal mail client. If it was truly abysmal, I'd be using something else. At least it's better than Lotus Notes. Now THAT's some gawdawful interface...

    Hope you're feeling better soon.

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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    Can you go easy on the sarcasm? We try to keep the Lounge friendly.

    I was about to ask you about your experience with Thunderbird, but now I'm interested in why you are recommending it when you have never used it?
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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    "You're a little testy tonight, arntcha?"
    No, I'm just asking you a question. We all have opinions, but normally when we express them here in the Lounge, we usually have some raionale or personal experiences to back them up (as opposed to simply dumping on a product because of personal preferences).
    As for "Hope you're feeling better soon", thank you for the concern but I was (am still am) feeling wonderful. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    A. I don't see an endorsement of Thunderbird in my above post - I asked "why not try it?"
    B. Mozilla foundation is (to me) an admirable organization.
    C. Firefox is FIERCE, and blows IE away - at least with CSS support - so Thunderbird might be just as terrific -- but before you try to slap me, I use both browsers, because neither is perfect.
    D. Thunderbird couldn't possibly be worse than OE.
    E. I'm the friendly kind of sarcastic.

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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    Strangely, you assume I don't have rationale or personal experiences to back up my recommendations. I've picked up a thing or two while working as a computer subject matter and technical expert since 1979.

    I have managed support for organizations of up to 3,500 users and currently maintain technical support for several dozen clients - which is why you don't see me posting here often - I'm awfully busy - working around M$ lax quality control and dumb features that don't work as advertised. In fact, I'm teaching 14 hour Word classes to 65 trainees over the next few weeks, and we spend the first HOUR of class turning off things that don't work or get in the way of the specific kind of work they do in their industry. This used to be time spent showing trainees how to get the most out of the product (WordPerfect).

    I wouldn't dump on a product simply because I don't like it - what matters is how it works and if it fulfills my client's needs - and those lost e-mails were agonizing to my (former OE user) clients.

    This thread has gone waaay off topic, so I'll moderate myself right out of it...

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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    I noted your flag and wondered if you are on Sympatico Hi speed. I just got hooked up and am told it doesn't support Mozilla. I too would like to getaway from OE. Do you know what if any other Email client/browser will work on Symp. Hi-Speed

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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    I think you have been misinformed. Any browser or e-mail client will work. I'm not with Sympatico, but my ISP's high speed DSL service operates on the Bell Nexxia platform (Canada wide backbone) as does Sympatico. Most, if not all Canadian ISP's offering DSL service use the Bell network.

    There are certain sites that will not function correctly with Mozilla (sites that use Active X controls and other MS proprietary coding and controls such as Windows Update or Office Update ) but when I find it necessary to access these sites, I simply switch to IE.

    I'm sure you will enjoy your new high speed experience. Quite a difference from dial up.
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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    Thanx for your prompt response. it earned you a coupla more questions!! I am running WinXp and have IE, OE and Outlook all installed as well as a version of Mozilla. Before Hi Speed I used Mozilla almost exclusively. I would like to go back to that. In trying to get it to run on this Sympatico network I tinkered and made some changes which I did not record. Should I REMOVE the present version and Install a fresh package OR will a Fresh version overwrite what is in there now? What do I do about Exporting and Importing Addresses and Mail file folders?

    Thanx a lot.

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    Re: Outlook Express to Outlook? (???)

    If you are currently having problems, then it's best to completely uninstall and then reinstall. You might check the Mozilla support pages to see if there any additional steps required following the uninstall.

    As for your address book and mail file folders, I'm really not sure. I don't use their e-mail client but I'm sure that there are other users in the Lounge who could answer this question. I do know that you can export and import the bookmarks. Hope this helps.
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