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    Media Player - Order of play

    If I load up say 10 mp3 files all numbered consecutively, I have noticed that in every case, the order of play shown in the "Now playing List" is as follows

    10
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    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9

    I'm now using MP 10, but this also happens in V9

    Anyone got any suggestions (& yes I've checked there are no variations in file naming)

    Colin

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    I use a neat little program called m3uEdit to create a .m3u playlist file. Grab v 2.2, which is much improved over the original - only 460KB installed.

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    You can also just change the order in which you select the songs for the playlist. Like this.....
    <center>2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10
    1</center>

    Then the songs will display im WMP in the correct 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 order. HTH
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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    Yeah I appreciate I can change the order, but why should I

    Does this happen to others? Is this a bug or is it "By design?

    I don't want the hassle of creating playlists, remembering to change the select order etc. All I want is to select a number of tracks and play them in the right order.

    COlin

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    As far as I can tell, it's a "feature" of these types of programs. I discovered the workaround using WinAmp. But soon found that this "feature" was present in several other programs. By design... I don't think so. At least I hope not !!! They can't be that stupid, can they ???

    I don't know of any way to correct this, unless you use the "shuffle" mode. Then the songs are always in the "right" order. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    I got the impression that the phrase "by design" was used by MS when someone perhaps hadn't fully thought through a problem, made an error in programming and produced a result such as this.

    The phrase "By design" is probably strictly correct as the prog is doing what it was programmed to do therefore it is not a bug. Is it what would have been done if it had been fully thought through? I doubt it, but it helps keep the bug count down.

    Anyway I'm pleased that others also see the problem. I wasn't sure if I had managed to change something in error.

    As with all silly faults, I can live with it. Maybe I should use playlists more often. But I'm listening now to a 3 hour radio show which I recorded, and which was automatically split into 20 min segments. I'll listen to it once then delete it.

    Thanks anyway

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    Colin,

    Not sure if there is information on playlists but check here: WMP mini FAQ. This is an MS employee who compiles this page in his 'spare' time.

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    Joe

    Couldn't find the info I wanted, but what a site.

    I've bookmarked it & will certainly use it in the future.


    Thanks


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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    Colin,
    Sorry it was not any immediate help. In searching the MS newsgroups I got the impression that you could not control the now playing playlist. I most certainly could be wrong. Have you tried a posting in the ms windowsmedia newsgroup?

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    I've just posted into one of the ms newsgroups. Will let you know the outcome.

    Thanks again

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    Simple solution: rename your MP3 files to 01, 02, 03, ... 09, 10 respectively.

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    They already are numbered like that.

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    Not according to your original post. Do they have a leading zero or not? I suspect not, if they're playing in the order you state.

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    Well, yes and no. Most programming procedures associated with sorting and ordering are constrained to use a single "fixed" method of doing this. To sort a list of numbers, they will sort on the first digit, then the second, third etc. So 05 and 08 will come before 1, but 5 and 8 will come after 1. 1 and 10 will be grouped with 12, 16 etc. This creates a problem if, for instance, there is a 094, which will be grouped with the 0xx numbers, followed by a 95 which will be with the 9xx numbers.

    Sorting also encompasses alphabetic characters, so digits are usually regarded as "just characters" and the fact that digit combinations can represent ordinal numbers is not accounted for. It would not be too hard to program in a "genuine" numerical sort order, but such programs tend to stick to the general traditional algorithms, rather than trying to anticipate reading the minds of each possible user/ usage (that's when you really start bloating the "this must be a bug because it doesn't do what I want" list).

    It would certainly be an enhancement if an inbuilt playlist equivalent existed, allowing the user to drag things around and reorder them as they wished. Currently though, I think my original suggestion of an external playlist, is the only answer.

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    Re: Media Player - Order of play

    Yup, Guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I didn't mean for the numbers to be taken as literal examples of file names, but of course I picked the worst example possible. If I'd picked 1 - 9 it might have been better.

    Anyway, the problem happens even when files are numbered "correctly".

    I've attached an image illustrating the prob. The top shows the "Open" dialog box from WMP. The bottom half shows the resulting playlist .

    You'll see, I start by selecting files

    01 - Ain't ........
    02 - Fly me ....

    up to

    06 - Come .....

    However,

    As you'll see, the first to play is

    06 - Come .....

    followed by

    01 - Ain't ........
    02 - Fly me ....
    etc
    (the numbers are suppressed by WMP which possibly even takes the info from the ID2/3 tags.

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