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    Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Office 11)

    We upgraded our Office suite to Office 2003, and now all of the machines that have Office 2003 and Project 2000 have a continuing problem whenever they launch any Office 2003 program - they receive a message asking them to insert the original Project 2000 installation CD. This is for about 200 of the 500 machines we have. We have tried inserting the CD and letting it install any files it wants. But, if the user uses Project after using Office, the next time Office (Word, Excel, Access) is launched, the message reappears. We have reinstalled Office also. It seems to me that Project 2000 can't live on the same machine as Office 2003. But, I'm not sure why.

    Does anyone know of a known conflict between these programs? I tried searching the MS Knowledge base, but came up empty. Maybe I'm not asking the right question.

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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Office 11)

    Technically, components from two versions of Office are not officially supported to FULLY co-exist.
    You might get lucky, but don't count on it.

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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Offic

    MS says"Although we do not recommend it, you can install and use more than one version of Microsoft Office on a single computer." <!mskb=828956>Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 828956<!/mskb> outlines the correct way to install multiple versions (including stand-alone products). The main thing to remember is to install from oldest to newest and install in different directories - eg. install '97 in "Office97", 2000 in "Office2000" etc. Outlook (as per the KB article) is the exception. OL2003 will NOT coexist with earlier versions. My own personal experience with installing following this procedure has not resulted in the Windows Installer prompts that you are experiencing.
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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Offic

    I haven't used Project much recently, but I do have multiple versions of Office (including Project) on my development machine. I mostly use Office 2003 and have the earlier versions (back to Office 97) loaded for compatibility testing. Although I have problems loading Project 2002 (lots of errors loading COM Add-Ins), Project 2000 loads quite happily - with no requests for the install CD.

    Have you tried copying the install CD onto a central network share?

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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Office 11)

    If you have to run older versions concurrent with newer versions of Office, we find Virtual PC to be an excellent solution. It not only lets you run multiple versions of Office, but you can run them in different OS environments. You probably don't want to take that approach for 200 PCs, so you may want to consider upgrading to Project 2003 - it has some nice enhancements and is better suited to the managment of large projects.
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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Offic

    Yes, but MSFT's mealy mouthed wording exposes the user to potential problems.
    Only if one is lucky will evrything work without error in a mixed environment.

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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Offic

    <hr>MSFT's mealy mouthed wording exposes the user to potential problems<hr>
    Actually <!mskb=828956>Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 828956<!/mskb> contains rather straightforward and explicit instructions Howard (have you read it?), and I'm not quite sure what "potential problems" I've been exposed to <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15> , however you're certainly entitled to <img src=/S/ranton.gif border=0 alt=ranton width=66 height=37> if you wish.

    While I realize that others have had problems with this type of configuration, I currently have three versions of Access and two versions of FrontPage (along with the other 2003 Office applications) installed on both a desktop and a laptop and I have configured several other computers (customers) to run multiple versions of Office on a single computer - all without problems. Rather than blind 'luck' as you speculate, I attribute this rather to following the exact instructions as laid out by Microsoft. In other words, <img src=/S/rtfm.gif border=0 alt=rtfm width=24 height=23> . Works for me (and others)! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Offic

    MSFT's artice does not describe the problems, other than the mealy mouthed

    "If you installed the versions of Office in the order described in the "Order of Installation" section, you generally do not experience any problems when you use shared programs such as Equation Editor and Clip Gallery."

    That does not even begin to address the issues.

    Newer versions of Office have less issues than earlier versions.

    It is nothing more than a matter of luck if one does not encounter the problems.

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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Offic

    <hr>That does not even begin to address the issues.<hr>
    Such as? Which configurations have you tried to run?
    <hr>Newer versions of Office have less issues than earlier versions.<hr>
    What does this mean? A 2003/XP machine has fewer problems than a 2000/97 machine? Or are you using "issues" in a different sense?
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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Offic

    I never run two versions of Office in one boot system, but:

    1. I periodically see postings of such problems. They occur more rarely these daze than in daze of yore, but there still can be problems and that is implied by the poorly worded MSFT KB article.

    2. A few years ago, I had a dying disk drive, whilst waiting for the replacement, I experimented by installing Office 95 and then Office 97 on the same system. That caused problems which I did document in MSFT newsgroups years ago.

    Ooops, I realized that I do have the following:

    1. Office 4 installed in a Win 3.1 system.
    2. On the same computer, in a separately installed Win 95, I have Office 95.
    3. No conflict between the two but, in the Win 95 system, I got lazy, and added a shortcut to Word 6. Using that shortcut, naturally, some Word 6 options do not work. I would expect the same issues if both Office 4 and Office 95 had been installed in Win 95 as the later installed Office 95 would have overwritten shared DLLs/registry entries.

    Again for "normal" use one could try following the installation instructions in th KB article, but it is only by luck that no problems occur.
    I've seen the problems described.

    I'm outta here.

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    Re: Project 2000 conflict with Office 2003? (Offic

    <hr> MSFT's artice does not describe the problems, other than the mealy mouthed "If you installed the versions of Office in the order described in the "Order of Installation" section" etc. <hr>
    What do you actually mean by "mealy mouthed" Howard?
    Why not also quote the second sentence in the paragraph, which explains exactly what is meant by this?

    <hr>That does not even begin to address the issues.<hr>
    You surely must have some specific issues in mind Howard?

    <hr>Newer versions of Office have less issues than earlier versions.<hr>
    Correct - Most newer versions of any software include improvements over earlier versions.

    <hr> I never run two versions of Office in one boot system, but: I periodically see postings of such problems.<hr>
    You say you have no first hand experience or knowledge relating to the OP's question, yet you freely offer advice on the topic. By this reasoning then, a user should never upgrade software, apply patches or Service Packs because "some people have had problems".

    You may have had problems "years ago" with Office 4 or Office 95 or Office 97 or Windows 3.1 or Windows 95, but I don't believe that <!profile=MelanieB>MelanieB<!/profile> was asking anything pertaining to any of these.
    <hr>It is nothing more than a matter of luck if one does not encounter the problems.<hr>
    Again, Howard Kaikow's opinion! (you have still not specified what particular problems)

    Three of us have tried to help <!profile=MelanieB>MelanieB<!/profile> with her problem with practical solutions or recommendations. You, on the other hand (and based on nothing more than reported problems from other users , have advised her that sheer luck will determine whether or not multiple version of Office will work successfully.

    <hr>for "normal" use one could try following the installation instructions in the KB article<hr>
    What is "normal" use Howard, and what would you consider "abnormal" use?

    <hr>I've seen the problems described.
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    ??????
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