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    Re: Norton System Works or Norton Personal Firewall

    Linda,
    Did you accept the default settings in SpyBot or make any changes?
    Did you run "immunize" to block all known bad actors?

    What ever you do don't accept ANYTHNG like doubleclick. It's one of the worst known spy sites around.

    Run Spybot again and also AdAware if you have it. Go to Immunize and check " block all known bad products"
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    Re: Norton System Works or Norton Personal Firewall

    Bob,

    Thanks for the prompt reply! Phew, after reading your message, am I ever glad I kept blocking doubleclick!

    Re. your questions, I'm completely new to Spybot or any such programs, only downloading Spybot after reading about the need for such a program. Consequently, I made no changes to the default settings and I don't think I ran Immunize, just "check for problems" and "search for updates". I have just opened Spybot and will click immunize and find and select "block all bad products" right away. Thanks.

    Haven't got Adaware. Is it one I should have along with Spybot? Is it downloadable?

    PS Just clicked Immunize and was told all bad programs were blocked already. While there, found a box that I'd checked which said to ask before blocking. I changed that to "block silently". Bet that will stop those pop up messages, right? Is it okay to have it happen in the background, without my having to okay the blocking all the time?

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    Re: Norton System Works or Norton Personal Firewall

    Linda,

    You a fast study !! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Rather than go into a long winded explaination here, I'll point you to a previous post of mine that has links to many of the important sites for Spybot and other Spyware tools. There is even a link to a tutorial for Spybot. HTH.
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    Re: Norton System Works or Norton Personal Firewal

    Does Spybot S&D tell you what DoubleClick wants to do? It is an advertising company, so surely it will always want to look for and update your browser cookie for its site. To stop IE from allowing that, you can add the doubleclick domains to your "no cookies" list in your Privacy Options (Firefox is similar in this regard). In some cases, a DoubleClick ad might actually push a script or try to instantiate an ActiveX control (e.g., Flash player). To block this, you have to go a step further and add it to your Restricted Sites list in IE's Security Options (Firefox does not have an exact analogue to this). SSD might still react, but hopefully if the browser blocks it in the first place, you can get rid of those repetitive alerts.

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    Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destroy

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by jscher2000 on 08-Dec-04 14:22. Made into a separate thread, as it is not closely related to the original topic in that other one.)</P>Doc Watson,

    You mention Spybot in your message so hope you can help me with this question. Downloaded and installed Spybot S&D last week, ran it and deleted all the things it found.

    Question: whenever I search the Web now, a message box from Spybot comes up 3 or 4 times with almost every page I view. Repeatedly clicking "Yes" does get rid of it, but then it pops back up over and over again when I visit another site. Its message: "Spybot S&D reports that you want to download DoubleClick. This is a known threat. do you want to block this download?" Yes or No.

    First, am I right to keep blocking this? The messsage appears in what I'd consider reputable sites, i.e., EBay. If so. is there some way to stop having to block it over and over again by changing some setting or other? Or is this a necessary nuisance to keep our computer safe?

    Any help or redirection you can offer, greatly appreciated - as always!

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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destroy

    That behavior is part of the Resident tool in Spybot.
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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destroy

    Thanks, all, I will check your link right after this posting, Doc Watson, and also follow the suggestion to add DoubleClick to Restricted Sites. Couldn't figure out if SSD tells me what DoubleClick wants to do. The only message I've seen is the one that simply tells me that "I want to download DoubleClick".

    Linda

    PS Report on Restricted Sites: couldn't find that name, but did find "Sites" and a large list of blocked sites by clicking Tools, Internest Options, Privacy, Sites. Is that right? Doubleclick was on the list!

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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destro

    The Restricted Sites list is on the Security tab. You click on the red icon for the Restricted Zone, and then the Sites... button becomes available. You can use wildcards, such as *.doubleclick.com and *.doubleclick.net to cover all subdomains.

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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destro

    Sheesh. Sorry about that - you said "Security" and somehow I went to "Privacy" instead. Have now gone to the correct place and added doubleclick as per your clear, understandable instructions. Thanks.

    By the way, that link Doc Watson provided is terrific! Great tutorials and a whole bunch of additional links to more sites with wonderful information for someone new to all this malware stuff!

    My only concern was that one of the links took me to a site that compared a number of the malware removal tools and, much to my surprise, Spybot Search and Destroy did not rate very well at all compared to the paid ones. This doesn't seem to fit with what I've been reading at all!!

    One clarification: still not sure from following Doc W's link if I need both SSD and Ad-Aware. Does anyone here have a recommendation about this issue?

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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destro

    Linda,

    Well I think your answers have been mostly taken care of while I was away at dinner. Doc & Jefferson & Charlotte have pointed you in the proper direction.

    Your last question about having BOTH Spybot & AdAware in use. Yes, It seems to be the very popular combination of the two that does the trick for most people. I think almost ALL of the Loungers agree on this. ( now we will get posts from the opposing opinions )

    So get them both and use them regularly. Best Rx I can give. ALL <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>
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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destroy

    SpyBot is telling you you're trying to download double-click and asking if you want to block it. The safe answer is Yes.
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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destro

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by jscher2000 on 08-Dec-04 20:45. Fixed link.)</P>Just to confuse things a little more <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> I'd also add SpywareBlaster to the mix. It's a "preventative" rather than a cure, patching various vulnerabilities as they become identified.

    I'd also ask if you're using a personal firewall. As well as having the ability to silently block junk like DoubleClick, it's really an essential to have one running resident when surfing the web. Have a look at <!post=Software Firewall: Why use it- Where to get it,407306>Software Firewall: Why use it- Where to get it<!/post> for further information.

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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destro

    Bob, Charlotte, Alan - many thanks for the additional information, I now understand what SSD was telling me and will be better educated in its use after doing the tutorial Doc W suggested. Will also check out Jefferson's link re. firewall. The only one I currently have is the Windows XP SP2 one that came with this OS and I have the feeling, from other Loungers, that it is neither very good nor very adequate. Oh, and I'll also download a copy of Adaware and look into SpyBlaster.

    Thanks for all your help and advice. I always learn so much from these Lounges and really appreciate all of you taking the time to provide expert advice, your experience and your knowledge - all altruistically! <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15>

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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destro

    Linda,

    If you have broadband connectivity to the internet, it wouldnt hurt to purchase a Cable/DSL router for added protection. Plug your computer and your modem into the router and your machine is hidden from the world.

    edit- after thought:

    Any router purchased should have NAT functionality. Linksys is a quality brand.

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    Re: Repetitive alerts from Spybot Seearch & Destro

    Thanks. I had read about routers in earlier Lounge posts linked to in this thread, but right now we're still on dial up.

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