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    Christmas Worm

    This article from CNN. Perhaps one of the reasons why my PC-Cillin has been updating numerous times over the past three or four days.

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    Re: Christmas Worm

    Woody's Email Essentials just hit my Inbox with a special edition update about this little piece of "Holiday Cheer". Doesn't seem like anything special or great cause for alarm. Just another little annoyance for the holidays. HO, HO, HO !!!!!
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    Re: Christmas Worm

    According to my Woody's Email Essentials, it says,

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    Re: Christmas Worm

    If they don't already know enough not to click on things they don't understand or know where they came from (and even then it's something they should think long and hard about before acting on), or don't have their security settings correct and all security software and hardware current then, perhaps they need a bit of this type of "Christmas Cheer" to prompt them to make a strong New Years' Resolution not to be so careless. <img src=/S/stop.gif border=0 alt=stop width=26 height=24>
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    Re: Christmas Worm

    <hr>If they don't already know enough not to click on things they don't understand or know where they came from (and even then it's something they should think long and hard about before acting on), or don't have their security settings correct and all security software and hardware current then, perhaps they need a bit of this type of "Christmas Cheer" to prompt them to make a strong New Years' Resolution not to be so careless. <hr>

    Wow Doc! - kinda callous, don't you think? Bah humbug, even?

    Though you may be right for many who SHOULD know better, I'm not just going to assume my 8 year old grandson or my 82 year old mother will be that leary of an innocent looking Christmas Card, no matter how many times I warn them of such things. Nor am I going to assume those friends and family that think of their computer as merely an office "tool", just another form of communications, or who have young computer users in their home, will be as diligent as you or me might be - if nothing else, the reminder is appreciated.

    Even if I wish to think of it selfishly, I can say if nothing else, as the family/neighborhood in-resident computer guy, it is easier for me to offer a gentle reminder now than to fix an infected system later.

    Happy Holidays!

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    Re: Christmas Worm

    A good real-time virus protection product would stop the worm even if they clicked on the card. There is no substitute for taking necessary precautions. I quite agree with Doc Watson and have repeatedly warned a 70+ year old friend about this behavior. You can't really protect people from themselves, but a resident antivirus helps.
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    Re: Christmas Worm

    Bill,

    Guess I got my own dose of Christmas Cheer for being such a Scrooge. Don't know what caused my trouble, but if it was my doing, then I deserve whatever happens. I stand by what I said earlier about knowing what you are doing before you do it (a tip of the hat to Charlotte for her support), even if the dummy is <big>ME</big> !!!
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    Re: Christmas Worm

    I'm confused, Charlotte. You say you "quite agree with Doc" who basically says if anyone does not know better by now, then if they get infected, its their own fault and they got what they deserved.

    But then you say you repeatedly warn a 70+ year old friend. Why? Why don't you just let your friend crash and burn too? After all, they asked for it, right?

    Is this really how you guys feel about helping folks enjoy a good and safe computing experience? Why are you here if that is so?

    I don't understand this attitude.
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    Re: Christmas Worm

    I think that Charlotte, like myself, is very interested in helping people. But when everyone that knows anything about computers is repeating this mantra over and over, it begs the question, "Which part of, 'Don't click on it if you don't know what it does !!' didn't you understand ??" You simply can't protect or help someone who won't listen. I never said I wouldn't help, just that they deserve whatever problems they cause by their insistence on doing it their way.

    That said, have a joyus and safe holiday season. On or off your PC !! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Christmas Worm

    I don't think that anyone here wishes anyone else to become infected by a virus. On the other hand, some people ignore the constant media coverage and friends' and vendors' warning and just take their chances. One more e-mail from Bill or Doc or Charlotte is not going to do anything for these people; like the boy who said "those aren't stinging nettles" as he grasped the bush in his hand (that would be me), some people have to learn things the hard way. Perhaps someday we'll have a software law like the seatbelt law and the motorcycle helmet law...thou shalt not operate your computer on the information superhighway unless you are protected against worms!

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    Re: Christmas Worm

    I think Doc and Jefferson have clarified the statements already, but I just want to add something. Most, if not all of us, who are computer "dedicated" people KNOW that there are certain things we MUST do to protect ourselves from the dirt bags of the world. But, we all know people who refuse to cotton to our advice and run the daily risk of destruction. I too have a number of acquaintenances, one of whom is "near and dear" to my heart, who, for some reason think it's too much trouble to do something as simple as keeping virus software pattern files up to date. I usually make the task as simple as possible with semi-automated tasks and the like, but for some reason, some people have to get "electrocuted" before they learn not to stick their fingers in the light socket! Sometimes the frustration of dealing with such people gets the better of us. But for most of us, we keep trying!

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    Re: Christmas Worm

    Wise words once again Al. But not all people refuse to "practice safe computing" religiously as they should. My mother IS 82, I'm happy that she remembers to check her email and that she's not afraid to do so. And I have automated her system as much as possible, but she's in SC and I'm in Nebraska - She's uses dial-up. She signs in once or twice a day, handles her email, logs off and shuts down. Leaving things on and running at night is not something she wants to do. Downloading current AV and spyware scanner signature/definition files is not something anyone on dial enjoys I am sure.

    My grandson is 8. My daughter is good at practicing safe computing but I still do and still will remind her so she can remind my grandson.

    Because I don't want them to stick their finger in the light socket, but cause it can do more than raise the hair off their heads, and because a computer has become a necessary tool for many, I will continue to remind them.
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