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    So how is this possible?

    On my recent holiday in Italy I met a lovely lady who had two daughters, Sherry and Cheri. It appears that Sherry and Cheri were born on the same date and same hour but they were not twins. How is that possible then?
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    Re: So how is this possible?

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">They were born a year apart?</span hide>
    <font color=448800><font face="Comic Sans MS"><big>Lyra J </font color=448800></font face=comic></big>
    <img src=/S/flags/UK.gif border=0 alt=UK width=30 height=18> Ducking the arrows in Robin Hood country <IMG SRC=http://www.wopr.com/w3tuserpics/Lyra_J_sig.gif ALT="No, Admins, no! I'm sorry, okay!" title="No, Admins, no! I'm sorry, okay!">

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    Re: So how is this possible?

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">You did not mention her third daughter, they were triplets.</span hide>

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    Re: So how is this possible?

    Sorry Lyra, No
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    Re: So how is this possible?

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">If by date, you mean for example, 22 December, they could have been born on that date, but in different years.

    If you mean that they were born on the same date in the same year, they, or one of the two, could be adopted.</span hide>

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    Re: So how is this possible?

    Oh, silly old me, of cause it was Sherry, Cheri and Terri. Yep, triplets
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    Re: So how is this possible?

    Hi Hans

    Always an interesting point when people ask these types of questions. Your point (AFAIK) is that we say are birthday is always on the same date say 12th of June. I would counteract that argument (sorry point) by saying I only have one birthday and that was the date of my birth, which was 12th June 1915!!
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    Re: So how is this possible?

    English is not my native language, but don't people distinguish between birthday (12th of June) and birth date (12th of June 1915)? Otherwise, how could I congratulate you on your 90th birthday next year?

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    Re: So how is this possible?

    No, I see your point. We do distinguish by saying "What is your date of birth?" and I would say "12/6/1915" but if you said "When is your Birthday?" I would say "12th June" because it repeats itself annually.

    This reminds me of the old puzzle

    "How many birthdays does the average person have in the UK?" a lot of people would hazard a guess and say "ooh, about 80" or something similar but the answer is one. It is a play on words, like so many of the puzzles in the Lounge and I suppose was the thrust of my other post.

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17> I am not really 89, I am still 21 (cough, cough)
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    Re: So how is this possible?

    Birthdate and Birthday in english are used interchangeably with the actual day of birth as well as the anniversary of that date. Birthdate is more the entire day/month/year, birthday month/day. Generally, birthday is meant for the anniversary of the birthdate, one does not have a birthday on the day they were born. Your first birthday is the first anniversary of the date.

    This was used to some "comic effect" in the SF TV show "Quantum Leap". Sam Becket "leaps" thru time (but only within his own lifespan) and he has a sidekick,Al, that can "link up" with him (he remains in his own time, but appears to Sam as a hologram). In one episode, the computer "controlling the project" had a hard time finding Sam in time, and Al said he had an impression that it was one of sam's birthdays. After spending a good part of the show, having Al search in time thru Sam's birthday (and being unsuccessful), Al finally asked if they had tried his "literal birthday" the day he was born. They had not. Sam had leaped to the day of his birth, not one of his "birthdays"

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    Re: So how is this possible?

    Hans

    Like many northern Europeans, educated in "correct" English, you probably have a firmer grasp on the technicalities than most "native" speakers. The latter group tend to have picked up whatever "approximate" dialect was used in their own locale, while the former group have been instilled with more of the precise "textbook" variety.

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    Re: So how is this possible?

    Or two of the other multiple births (2 of quads, quints, etc) <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: So how is this possible?

    Alan

    So we come on to the discussion of dialect. This is where a lot of problems can be caused when words take of different meanings and a person can walk into some tricky situations quite innocently.

    You mention Northern Europeans and their use of "precise textbook" English. Well I can safely say that some of the British dialects fail far below this description. If anything, the other European countries take English as a very important part of their curriculum and I can safely say that the French, Germans, Danish and Dutch ( there are obviously a great deal more) knock spots of the British for knowing the English language better that some of the inhabitants of the UK. A frightening indictment and will probably irritate some of my fellow countrymen on these boards. A particular proof of this conclusion is when I have seen Hans correct some of us English speakers <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15>

    Anyway, I can speak 3 languages, English, American and Australian <img src=/S/blackteeth.gif border=0 alt=blackteeth width=20 height=20>
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    Re: So how is this possible?

    This is exactly what I was referring to Jezza. Although I obviously speak more languages than you can (Canadian and New Zealand to name but two <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>), the point really hit home back in the 80s, when I wanted to ask directions of a German gentleman in Munich. I started by asking "Sprechen Englisch?". He replied "A little". After asking my question, he answered in perfect, classical English, including two words I had to go and look up, for their "exact" meanings.

    As they say, they are taught "The Queen's English" and it's taken as a serious subject of study. If anyone criticises my lingo, by asking "Don't you know The Queen's English?", I always reply with "Not for sure, but I'm pretty certain she'd have to be, wouldn't she?"

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    Re: So how is this possible?

    and how about your Canadian (eh!), New Zealandish, Fijiian, Gibraltaran, Belizian, Bermudian, Barbadon, Fawkland Islandish (Maulvinian), Indian (dot, not feather), Cyprian, Trans-Jordanish, Kenyan, South African, Zimbabian, Zambian or Ascension Islandishian?

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