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    Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    I know in front that most (or all) of you don't like being put in the position of "responsibility" for making public choices, but I need some help here...

    I emailed a while back about this (sorta), and here's "part 2":

    ZoneAlarm has been a pretty darn dependable firewall for several years, but every so often it gets REAL testy about what and when it allows things to "pass through". And it has no virus protection. Nor any spam or spyware protection;

    AVG anti-virus seems good, but no firewall or spam/spyware coverage;

    Norton is the "Editor's Choice", and I do use Norton Ghost, but the NAV seems to really suck up resources; -- AND I haven't forked over for the firewall, and again, no spam or spyware protection;

    Trend Micro's PC-cillin Internet Security 2005 is a "package deal", and *seems* to offer good protection... But it's *$50*, and their support, although present, seems a bit slow...

    I could piece a solution together, some of this, some of that...

    Come on guys, help me out here...

    What would YOU do if you were (heaven help you) in my shoes?

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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    I use NAV, ZoneAlarm <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> version and Outlook 2003 junk filter. Then I run Ad-Aware SE.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    Chuck,

    Why don't you read and/or search the Spyware - Antivirus - Safe Computing forum? There are many threads discussing the very things you are asking. Several people freely say what they use and recommend.

    It is called PERSONAL COMPUTING because so much of it is up to you. Most decisions depend on budget, knowledge, personal preference, experience, etc. What may seem to you like not taking responsibility is in reality just saying that it is up to you to make an informed decision.

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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    I have moved this whole thread to the Spyware - AntiVirus - Safe Computing board from the Windows 2000 board to give more people a chance to comment.

    I personally use corporate editions of NAV and Sygate, because that is what my employer provides.

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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    Hi Chuck. Hope you & yours had a good Christmas. I personally use ZA Pro, NAV 2004, Firefox & Thunderbird, and run regular scans of Spybot & AdAware SE. So far I've had no problems at all, and all have been perfectly stable with no conflict issues.

    I'm running XP Pro SP2.
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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    As you reported in your <!post=other thread,,437587>other thread<!/post> starting here, it seems like you've already downloaded and tried the evaluation version. I think Joe hit the nail squarely on the head in his post above - it's gonna come down to a matter of personal choice, given YOUR experiences with this and other products. As I have also previously posted, I currently use the free Sygate for firewall and PC-Cillin for anti-virus. I don't run any spam blocking software per se, because I use MailWasher to stop all the crap right at my ISP's server. I do however run Spybot and AdAware (free) versions periodically to check for malware and I have SpywareBlaster installed. There is seeming evidence that "suite" packages sometimes cause problems for SOME people, but only you can say for sure. My personal "plan" is that in February when my annual PC-Cillin license runs out, I will BUY their 2005 version, temporarily shut down Sygate and give TrendMicro a shot at my system. I won't know until I try it where I go from that point. But hopefully by then their current system will have been around for awhile and have any kinks out of the way. Good luck!

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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    No "package" will do it all. ZoneAlarm can be set to block popups and ads, but that is secondary coverage. You still have to pick and use one or more (I use 3) spyware/malware zappers and a good antivirus. These programs all do different things, and the best combination depends on your personal setup, use and preferences. Nobody is going to be able to tell you that a single combination works the best, only what works for them. No one has tried ALL the combinations, so you aren't going to get definitive answers because there are none. Personnaly, I use ZoneAlarm Pro (plus my DSL router firewall), AdAware SE, PestPatrol Pro, SpyBot, F-Prot AV and Junk-Out. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    I'm not necessarily looking for a one package solution (although that sure would be nice)... It's just that as you find pieces that solve one problem, they seem to either create another (maybe just as bad or worse) problem, or, conflict so badly with another part of the solution that you find yourself back at square one...

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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    I suspect you're always going to find yourself in that position. How it works depends on your particular machine and everything else you have installed on it, including the hardware, the OS and any service packs/updates. There have been frequent discussions of how poorly ZoneAlarm coexists with NAV, yet a number of people in this thread have listed that combination as successful. No one is going to be able to give you a formula, they can only indicate their own experiences and leave you to experiment until you get something that works. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    I just changed (5 days ago) to the suite from Trend-Micro. In the past I used NAV2003 & ZoneAlarm Pro 5.5. I now use TMSS-2005 with Firefox and their adblock & dictionary ad-in extensions. I run PestPatrol once a week and not much else. I changed due to TMs Houscall product finding items NAV never did. I decided to support the company. Amazon had it for $40 with a $25 mail in rebate to give you a net cost of $15 and free shipping, which is the cost of NAV for another year of definitions. I just started using the spam filter set to medium and it is doing fairly well. Only a few errors. I say go for it.

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    Re: Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005

    sinjin:

    THAT'S a good deal... I think TM's product is good enough by itself... For a net $15 it's a steal...

    Joe, Dave, Stuart, Al, Charlotte: you guys have been a help in the process... You are right (expectedly) that it is a preferential type of thing, but I've sometimes found that I miss signposts that others see, so it's good to check...

    Thanks for the time, input and advice.

    K guys, that should pretty much close this out...

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