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    Organizing the Start Menu (XP)

    My Start Menu has grown too large, and I want to organize it, but I'm frustrated and mystified.

    I'm accustomed to WIN98, where I could make folders and easily put Start Menu items into them.

    Now my Start Menu items seem to be in two different places -- Documents and SettingsAll Users, and Documents and SettingsLouis (me, the only one who ever uses this computer). There are folders within the Start Menu, but I'm not sure how to move stuff between them, make new ones, etc.

    Tips I find on the Internet are opaque and not helpful.

    Who can help me figure out how to organize this thing?
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    Re: Organizing the Start Menu (XP)

    If you put them in the ALLUSER folder, the arrangment will be the same for ALLUSERs, if and when you make a new user account. If the ones in the Alluser folder are moved to you personal folder then if you make a new user account the program will not be listed on that menu unless you copy it ti that user folder.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Organizing the Start Menu (XP)

    I think you might find some help from the Elder Geek's Tutorial on the Start Menu and how to use and customize it. Lot's of helpful ScreenShots so you can see what is happening as well as read about it. HTH. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    Edited by Doc to add I'm sure you already know that you can change the XP Start Menu to the "Classic Windows" (read Windows 98) Start Menu by right clicking on the Start button and selecting Properties. Then put a dot in the circle for Classic Start Menu (see ScreenShot) and you'r back in that warm & fuzzy Win 98 Start menu.
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    Re: Organizing the Start Menu (XP)

    I've looked at eldergeek and I've figured out how to arrange things using the classic mode. I still don't understand how some stuff gets into the All Users start menu and other stuff gets into the Louis start menu. Neither have I figured out how, if I'm signed on as Louis, the stuff in both start menus gets displayed on my screen. (I'm working on it, but I just haven't figured it out yet.)
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    Re: Organizing the Start Menu (XP)

    Some applications install their menu options in the "All Users" start menu, others use the "Current User" start menu, and yet others give you a choice when installing.

    Windows always merges the "Current User" and "All Users" start menus. So if the Cocuments and SettingsAll UsersStart MenuPrograms folder contains

    Program A
    Program B
    Program C

    and the Cocuments and SettingsLouisStart MenuPrograms folder contains

    Program D
    Program E

    the displayed Start | All Programs menu will be

    Program A
    Program B
    Program C
    Program D
    Program E

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    Re: Organizing the Start Menu (XP)

    I almost had that figured out before seeing your post. I wonder what happens if the All Users start menu contains Folder A (containing Program W) and Folder B (containing Program X), and the Louis start menu contains a folder also named Folder A (but containing Program Y) and Folder C (containing program Z).

    Also, I've now re-done my start menu, putting everything into the All Users start menu. (Maybe I should have put it all into the Louis start menu.) The Start Button now produces a nicely organized start menu, which is what I set out to accomplish.

    The next time I add a program, I'll watch to see if Windows wants to put its shortcut into the All Users or the Louis start menu.
    Lou Sander
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    Re: Organizing the Start Menu (XP)

    Windows merges submenus (=subfolders) too. Both Start MenuPrograms folders will probably contain an Accessories subfolder. The contents will be displayed in one submenu combining entries from both. Same for the Startup subfolder.

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    Re: Organizing the Start Menu (XP)

    I think I'm on top of all this right now. I couldn't have done it without the help from this forum.

    Actually, I probably COULD have done it, but probably WOULDN'T have done all the necessary research and experimentation, and if I HAD, it would have taken many, many times as long as it did. That's the case with a LOT of stuff that is learned via forums, I think. What a truly miraculous thing these forums are! Thanks again for all your help in this and other matters.
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