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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    >Another thing is that I haven't yet found a way of turning off the reading pane/preview pane or whatever Thunderbird calls it, nor of preventing it treating messages as read as soon as you have viewed them in that pane.

    Grab the "bar" separating the list of messages and the preview pane. Then pull it towards the edge of the window of the application. The preview pane disappears. Presumably, with no preview pane, you no longer need to worry about viewed messages being marked as read.

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    ... and if want to get it back?

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    Same thing in reverse. <img src=/S/thumbup.gif border=0 alt=thumbup width=15 height=15>
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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    That's easy then. How do you find these things out? I'm not having much luck with the Thunderbird Help. Clicking on Help->Mozilla Thunderbird Help takes me to a webpage that almost instantly redirects to another page that comes up with a message saying 'The page cannot be found'.

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    Thunderbird (& its predecessors) has always been my e-mail client of choice.

    Thunderbird Help is shortly to be moving to www.mozilla.org, but, at present you can find it at http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/

    As this part of the thread has really been about Thunderbird, I am going to move it to the Other Browsers and EMail Clients Forum - so it can be of full use to other Loungers.
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    OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    One thing I've found with Thunderbird so far is that it's hard to get news posts ordered how you want them. I like to see then in descending date order (i.e. newest at the top) and threaded. To get this you seem to have to click at the top of the date column to get them in the date order you want, and then on the View menu choose Sort by ... threaded. Don't do it the other way round or when you choose the date order it will unthread them again. A bit of a palaver to get it how I wanted it I thought.

    Another thing is that I haven't yet found a way of turning off the reading pane/preview pane or whatever Thunderbird calls it, nor of preventing it treating messages as read as soon as you have viewed them in that pane.

    I'm prepared to persist with it a bit longer, as I quite like the look and feel, but so far I think I prefer the devil I know (OE).

    Using either makes me think that I find it easier all round to use a nicely set-up facility like the Lounge than newsgroups! <img src=/S/salute.gif border=0 alt=salute width=15 height=20>

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    Thanks for the pointer to the Help.

    The redirect from the Help in Thunderbird ends up on a page at

    http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/<NOSCRIPT><META HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=

    so I assume that there is something amis in the redirect. The page you have directed me to is fine.

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    ... and I find from the Help site that you can toggle off the 'message pane' as they call it using F8. No mention of how to stop it marking messages as read, though.

    Ian

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    By the way, instead of dragging the bar back & forth, you can double click it. That way it should return to the same spot.

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    Ian,
    Have you looked in Tools>Options>Advanced>General Settings? There's an entry there to set the amount of "view" time before a message gets marked as such.

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    OK - it says 5 seconds, but the box is unchecked and it seems to mark it as read in a lot less than 5 seconds.

    Ian

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    Ian,

    It's probably too late, but it seems you never got a response re: your problem with marking messages as read. If the check option to "Mark as read" is unchecked, FB seems to mark them as read the moment you look at them. But if you check the option and set the number of seconds really high (I tried it with 10000), it seems to take that literally and doesn't mark the message as read (assuming, of course, you don't read it for 10,001 seconds).

    Also, there's an extension you can get that lets you add a button to toggle the preview pane on and off (I myself have no ability to remember keystrokes, making F8 anathema for me). You can find it at: http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=150 (if you go, make sure you get the newest version for FB 1.0).

    Additionally, here are some other extensions I've found useful, in case you want to investigate them. I didn't build any of these, so I can't guarantee they're stable, but I've been personally using them with no problems:
    Contacts Sidebar (adds your contact list to the "main window", just under the file tree display).
    https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extension...einfo.php?id=70
    http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more...ontactssidebar
    Dictionary Search (lets you right click a a selected phrase and send it directly to any of four search engines, i.e. a dictionary, a thesaurus or encyclopedia).
    http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=218
    http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more...ctionarysearch
    NNWODC (No New Window On Double Click)
    http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=147
    http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/nonewwindow
    Get All Mail Button
    http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=262

    Frank

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    Re: OE vs. Thunderbird (OE 6)

    Thanks, Frank.

    Ian

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