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    Mouse going crazy!

    I previously had a logitec wireless mouse, the issue i had with that was that the batteries always died and it was fairly obnoxious to change every few weeks, another problem i had was that when the mouse was not in use, just sitting on my screen it would randomly start agitating, shaking, and moving down the screen. This confused me and annoyed me because if i was trying to draw a straight line in pain shop pro for example it would all of a sudden skip to the other end of the page and obviously ruining my line! i recently got a new mouse, a logitec wired mouse and the problem persists. random shaking, skipping around the screen, and moving down/across the screen, is there a cause, reason, solution to my inconveniance? thanks

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    More than likely you have some piece of software running that's hogging CPU and causing the erratic mouse behaviour. What OS are you running? What AV program are you running? We need to determine what stuff ("TSRs") is running and there are a number of ways to do that.

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    well im running windows xp home, all the current updates, 2.4 gigahertz proccesor, i dont know what an AV is or a TSR is so youll have to speak in more simplistic terms, but yah if you can guide me thru finding out what these are thatd be appreciated

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    Sorry 'bout the "shorthand" computer terms. AV is antivirus program - which are you running? TSR is an old term meaning "terminate and stay resident" for one or more pieces of software that are loaded when your computer boots and are running, more or less in the background, at all times when the computer is running. In Windows XP, the quickest way to take a look at that is to click Start, Run and then type MSCONFIG in the command box. When the MSCONFIG window opens, look in the Startup tab and you will see a list of all programs that are started when you bootup. If possible, you could make a screenshot of what's there and let us see if someone can spot a guilty party. Also, while I'm on the subject, are you aware of, and occasionally run anti-spyware programs? See <!post=this StarPost,296439>this StarPost<!/post> in case you need some advice or background. Erratic or jumpy mouse activity is usually indicative of some software tying up the computer.

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    im running "trend micro internet security 7.0" as my virus software

    other backround programs running are (sorry if i dont know the actual program name, if i can identify it i will, if not ill just give you the computer name given:

    -NvCpl
    -nwiz
    -Trend Micro software
    -DeadAIM (aol instant messanger assistant)
    -Logitec mouse software
    -ctfmon
    -AIM
    -Spysweeper
    -Configuration utility
    -Digital line detect (id imagine to pick up my wireless connection)

    When going to the windoes task manager and clicking on performance, for CPU usage the % ranges from 0-35% and the page file usage stays roughly around 329 mb. Id imagine with 512 mb of memory and a 2.4 ghz pentium 4 proccesor that things like this shouldnt happen (thought i will admit my computer runs pathetically slow for its capabilities).

    i do regular defrags with diskeeper
    regular adware/spyware cleansings
    and i have 25 gb free on my 60 gb hard drive and 80 gb free on my 200 gb hard drive.

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    From what little I know about it, the first two items seem to be associated with your NVIDIA graphics, so I'll leave them for now, unless someone else know of problems with that card. I also use TrendMicro AV software and I don't know of any CPU hogging problems with that software, but there could be something I'm not familiar with. What jumps out at me is AIM ! How 'bout going in to MSCONFIG and un-check the AIM entries to shut that down temporarily and see if the herky-jerky problem goes away. I don't use AIM but it wouldn't surprise me if that could be the culprit. If you un-check it for running at startup, you can always come back later and turn it back on.

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    unfortunately it didn't work. i unchecked AIM, DeadAIM, and logitec software in msconfig, restarted the machine but to no prevail, the second the computer started up i got the shaking immediately upon startup. thanks for the attempt tho!

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    Please don't despair. I'm hoping we'll figure this out together. I'm still hoping that someone with Nvidia experience will jump in to comment on whether the drivers could be causing a problem. OK, maybe more (temporary) drastic measures are called for now. I also don't know anything about Spysweeper, so how about the drastic step of un-checking all the entries in your MSCONFIG to see what happens? As I said before, it's not devastating since you can always come back and turn them back on one at a time to see where the problem arises.

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    you can rule out spysweeper as well. the only real option left IS the graphics card, currently i disabled it from starting up (which in actuality didnt really affect anything, i can still play movies and such) and the mouse seems to be running smoothly, but id have to give it a good hour to see if its for real.

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    NVcpl is the Nvidia Control Panel display extension. It enables an applet to allow you to set many properties of your graphics card. It should not impact using the mouse. Nwiz is the Nvidia Nview wizard. Here's something from Nvidia about Nwiz:

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    after running my computer for a good hour without nwiz the mouse has not once yet skipped, doesnt mean it wont happen in 10 minutes but this is looking fairly promising.

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    Hopeless, even with the Nvidia component gone the mouse is sitll all over the place. Should I give up?

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    Can you run the Task Manager and check the Processes tab to see what is using the CPU when the mouse is misbehaving?

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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    Hi Ben,
    I see Al's not on line right now so I'm going to jump in. When you switched from the cordless to the corded mouse, did you uninstall the cordless software and then install the new software from Logitech?

    I see from your posts that things were running smoothly for a while, and then started acting up again. Did this happen when you started your computer this morning or did it just start again while the computer was on yesterday?

    While Al's recommendation of MSConfig is fine, there is another <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> utility which gives you much more information as to what runs when your computer starts. Get a copy of Autoruns from Sysinternals and see if you can identify the possible culprit with this tool. You can disable startup programs from here as well. I would try this tool a few times, rebooting after each "disable" and checking Autoruns after each reboot. If this works, that's great. BUT if an entry which you disabled returns, then there is some sort of malware, spyware or adware on the computer. If this is the case, we can go from there. Hope this helps.
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    Re: Mouse going crazy!

    UN check the Logitech mouse from msconfig.
    UN install the logitech mouseware software completely from Device Manager.
    ReBoot and let the system pick a mouse driver for you. If you are now using a standard wired mouse, USB, PS2 or whatever, you should be OK with the default drivers.
    You didn't say what kind of wired mouse you have but if it came with it's own drivers, you can then install them if things are going OK.
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