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    The Access Program (XP/2003)

    It is a sad day for me, as i have slaved over a database for a client to realized that they do not have Access. They have gotten softwares individually meaning they have Outlook, Word and Excel. I didn't even think to ask as I just figured they had it. Anyway, this is my reason for writing. Do you know if there is an Access Trial out there or a way I can convert my database into something they could view/use. I would prefer to only install Access and not the whole office suite if possible.

    I would love you guys even more than I do now.

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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    You could obtain the Access 2003 Developer Extensions; this gives you a royalty-free license to distribute the runtime version of Access. See Obtain and deploy the Access 2003 runtime.

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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    If they don't have any other database software, why not just tell them to buy Access? And who buys the software individually anymore? Sorry, just a little <img src=/S/bananas.gif border=0 alt=bananas width=33 height=35> if you ask me....esp. as a company.... <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    Morning Hans:

    Could you just clarify/correct me!

    1. According to the article from your link...Once a person has created an access appl. using the Access runtime software, this appl. can then run on any PC as a stand alone windows program. In other words, the PC does not even need office installed on it. Is this correct!?
    2. Do you know how/where to access the runtime software on the Office 2003 intallation CD?
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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    1. If you install Access 2003 Runtime on a PC without Microsoft Office (hence without the full version of Access 2003), you can run Access databases on that PC. The databases must meet certain requirements, for example they MUST have a startup form, since the database window is not displayed if you open a database using Access Runtime.

    2. I don't have Access 2003 myself, so I don't know where the runtime is to be found on the Office 2003 CD. Please note that Access 2003 includes the runtime, but not a license to distribute it. You need the Developer Extensions for that, they come with an installer application.

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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    <hr>I don't have Access 2003 myself, so I don't know where the runtime is to be found on the Office 2003 CD. Please note that Access 2003 includes the runtime, but not a license to distribute it. You need the Developer Extensions for that, they come with an installer application.<hr>
    I understand from your quote...thx. The Package Wizard is also on the Developer Extensions. This is necessary to package the appl. to run on the Runtime software anyways.

    You corrected me in your first statement. I was under the impression that the appl. developed would be able to run on a PC without any office programs installed. According to what you mension...The runtime program must be installed on the PC without office available. This I understand now.

    HOWEVER...

    About 3yrs ago, I was involved in an access workshop where we discussed packaging an access appl. that will enable it to operate on a PC without and office installations. I recall that we needed the office developer toolkit CD which contained the packaging software that packaged the complete access dbase with the necessary DLL files, sothat it was able to run on a PC without office. (Similar to a powerpoint show (.pps)).

    Have you ever attempted this, or do you have some guidelines regarding this. I ask as my memory has faded over time and I cannot recall all the details about this approach. If we can get it clarified, <!profile=Chona>Chona<!/profile> may benefit from this approach too.
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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    Please see the Microsoft article I posted a link to higher up in this thread. This article, and the links in it, explain how to build and deploy a runtime application.

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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    I have read the article, and run searches on the site to try find details of my query. No results unfortunately. (But then again, I have never been a "search fundie")

    Unless that was the old way of distributing an access appl. it seems that I will need to suffice with the info in your link. I still recall that 3 odd yrs ago we were able to package an appl. and then (without having to install runtime software on a PC) we were able to load the appl. and use it without the PC having office on it. Things must have changed since then!!!

    Thanx for your patience Hans.

    If anyone else has further details that can clarify my query....please inform me. <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16>
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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    The package must have installed the runtime version of Access, perhaps without you being aware of it. It has never been possible to run an Access application without either the full version of Access (the one that comes with Office Professional) or the runtime version.

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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    You are probably correct... I never considered the fact that the package wizard in that developers toolkit may have done that! OK... I suddenly experience a sense of closure on this. (informatum optimum, <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>)

    Thanx Hans
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    Re: The Access Program (XP/2003)

    Thanks Rudi for asking all of those questions. I am still semi-unclear on how I am going to put this on the clients computer.however, I will reread the link that was provided to look for some clarity. When all else fails I release the hounds (the IT staff) and they make it work like magic.

    I also agree with the rude comments at the beginning where someone noted who buys softwares individually anymore. Due to my clients having little funds is how I got into this mess in the first place. I feel bad asking them to buy a software they have no money for. [img]/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif[/img]

    Thanks again everyone!
    Hans your full of knowledge! Thanks so much!

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