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    INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    I'm sure I used to see the recycle bin when using Windows Explorer but it seems to have gone. Now some drives have a folder called RECYCLER which I guess is the recycle bin and at least one has INCINERATE as well as RECYCLER. They all look like ordinary folders. Is this usual or has something changed? If something has changed what could have caused it and how do I unchange it?

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    PS I am using a global setting for the recycle bin.

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    I would suspect that you have System Mechanic installed on your system. The Incenerate folder is System Mechanic's "Recycle Bin".
    As for the "Recycler" folder, this contains a Recycle Bin for each user (on NTFS partitions) who logs on to the machine.
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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    Thanks John,

    In haste, I am using NTFS partitions. Is it possible to have one recycle bin for all accounts as I am the only user of the computer. Regarding System Mechanic I tried that out over six months ago but uninstalled it. Would it be safe to delete these folders. Could any other program have created them?

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    <hr>Is it possible to have one recycle bin for all accounts as I am the only user of the computer<hr>
    Not that I am aware of, but there may be some obscure hack or software add-in to accomplish that. However, as you are the only user of the computer the need is mitigated - i.e. it really doesn't matter.

    If Windows will allow you to delete the folders that System Mechanic added, feel free. I guess that software doesn't clean up after itself all that well. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    Hi Mark,

    Thanks for the reply. I deleted the INCINERATOR folders. I set about changing the icons for the RECYCLER folders but then I noticed that if I right-click they appear to be just like any other folder. No options to empty the recycle bin. Is that usual? Also if I click on an item inside it doesn't give me options to restore. It doesn't seem right to me. I tried deleting one of them but windows wouldn't let me which is what I expected.

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    Chris,
    As Mark indicated, deleting the Incinerate folder is not a problem. The Recycler folder is a protected operating system file (folder) and you should not try to delete or edit it. Let's now get the Recycle Bin back on your desktop. This article indicates several causes for its disappearance and several methods to restore it.
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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    Thanks John, I think I'm not understanding something. I have a recycle bin on my desktop . When I use Windows Explorer I thought I used to see a recycle bin on every drive. Now I only see the recycler folders. Are these not the same as the recycle bin? I shouldn't touch them?

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    While you're waiting for John, may I make an observation, Chris? On my drives, the name is called RECYCLED (within Windows Explorer) on those drives (partitions) that are FAT32 and on my lone NTFS partition, it's called RECYCLER (see attached sample). When you open Explorer, the subfolders of Recycler are not initially visible in the left pane until I click on one or more in the right pane. Then, when I select that subfolder in the left pane, the deleted files ARE then visible in the right pane. In all cases, FAT32 and NTFS, right-clicking on a deleted file in the right pane DOES yield a choice of restoring the file. Can you see if you get the same display that I do?

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    OK Chris, I misunderstood about the Recycle Bin on the desktop. Al's response has indicated what name is displayed depending on the file system. On an NTFS system, the Recycler folder will not be displayed unless you have disabled "hide protected operating system files" in Explorer (Tools>Folder options>View tab). This seems inconsistent however. On my primary drive (using NTFS) and with the "hide protected operating system files" checked, I cannot see the Recycler folder. But if I view the contents of my external USB drive, the Recycler folder is visible <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15> . I too have the same options as Al. If I right click on one of the folders withing the Recycler folder, I have multiple options, with Explore and Empty Recycle Bin being two of them. If I right click on one of the FILES within the sub folder, I too have the option to Restore.

    I can't remember the Recycle Bin ever being visible in Explorer in WinXP. The Recycle Bin WAS visible in WinME (and in previous versions of Windows) and maybe that's what you are remembering. The Recycler folders are where XP stores all of the information and files which you see when you open the Recycle Bin on the desktop. So in fact, you can delete the files which are stored in the sub folders of the Recycler, but you should definitely not remove the sub folders or the Recycler folder. I haven't tried it, but I don't think Windows will allow you to delete them.

    As for why there may be more than one sub folder beneath the Recycler folder, XP is designed for multiple users, and as such, each user has his/her own recycle bin. While you, as a single user, may only have one sub folder beneath the Recycler folder, other computers may have multiple folders, depending on the number of users defined on that particular machine. Windows assigns a unique folder name to each of these that is linked to each user account. The Recycle Bin on the desktop then, is in fact pointing to a particular sub folder of the Recycler folder dependent upon who is logged in at any particular time. Hope this explanation is not too confusing. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    Thank Al and John. I confirm that my recycler folders are responding the same way as both of yours. I hadn't realised about the right-left-right process. It seems that Recycler is hidden when "hide protected operating system files" is checked - except when it's not! Out of curiosity what is your default setting - hidden or unhidden. I have had them unhidden but am thinking of going back to hidden.

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    My default is set to Hidden. If I have a particular need, I temporarily unhide them and then rehide them. Less chance of possible <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> that way.
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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    I guess I'm lazier than John as one of the first things I do when installing a new setup is to unhide protected files. True, I don't have that much need for messing with protected files, but I just like to "see" everything in Explorer so my Folder Options, View looks like the attachment. BTW, in my Explorer, left pane, right under the Network item is the Recycle Bin, so if you guys don't have one, I guess that's a problem. Also, it doesn't matter WHERE you look at the FILES in the Recycle Bin, the same files show up there - Desktop Recycle Bin or one of the drives/partitions in Exolorer (Recycled or Recycler).

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    Al,

    Complete change of subject, but is the colour fringing in your attachment caused by cleartype? Is this screenshot from an LCD screen?

    Inquiring minds would like to know.

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    Dear Inquiring Minds,

    Neither, I'm afraid. I'm not even sure what you mean by color fringing. I just made a printscreen within Explorer and cropped it with PSP. I do however have Clear Type turned on in Display Properties but I don't know what to look for in the image in question. Can you help me understand what I should be looking for?

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    Re: INCINERATE and RECYCLER? (XP Pro SP2)

    Look carefully at the color in your image where you have two consecutive lower case Ls such as in the word full. You will see a slight colour variation. This is caused by the way cleartype uses partial pixels to achieve its effect.

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