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    MS AntiSpyware Free

    At the RSA Security Conference Bill Gates has announced that the MS AntiSpyware package will be free.
    <hr>"We've looked hard at the nature of this problem, and made a decision that this anti-spyware capability will become something that's available at no additional charge for Windows users -- both the blocking capability, and the scanning and removal capabilities." <hr>
    Anti-spyware tool to become standard issue for Windows

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    Microsoft's plan to give away its software didn't surprise or scare Richard Stiennon, vice president of threats research at Webroot Software Inc., of Boulder, Colo., maker of the popular Spy Sweeper program. Webroot charges $29.95 a year for updates and support.
    "All I can say is, you get what you pay for," Stiennon said. "Security is a huge learning curve to climb, and Microsoft is just stepping into these waters."


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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    I agree with you Doc about the quote "huge learning curve" but you have to admit that Microsoft did a good thing by starting off the race by buying "GIANT AntiSpyware". Maby this time they will not mess it up.......(Just my hopeful thinking)....If Microsoft was smart they would have also kept some of the programmers from Giant Company Software Inc. to continue the programming....

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    Cory,

    I hope you're "hopeful thinking" proves correct and that MS doesn't "mess it up" this time. Unfortunately, they haven't gotten Windows right yet and it's been almost 15 years since 3.0 was introduced !! Also, I'm not so sure that Giant was the right choice so much as it was the "available" choice for MS. And one has to wonder why they didn't chose to spend the time and money to "fix" Windows code instead of writing more code for an anti-spyware program whose reason for being in the first place was created by faulty MS products !!!

    If Microsoft were smart, they would fire all their programmers, buy Apple and retain their entire staff, including Steve Jobs (after all somebody has to do Bill's job), and build a better mousetrap. (Are you listening Bowlie ???) <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>
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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    I don't think the commercial (ie, non-free) anti-spyware program providers will have too much to worry about with MS giving their prgram out for free:<UL><LI>Freebies like Ad-Aware and Spybot S&D still leave market share for the paid programs
    <LI>MS can (and probably will) make their program available only to authenticated users
    <LI>If MS starts to bundle their program with Windows it will make a juicy target for antitrust lawsuits[/list]

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    If I wanted a MAC is would buy one, that is all we need is just another MAC with a different marketing outlet. <img src=/S/bwaaah.gif border=0 alt=bwaaah width=123 height=15>

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    Doc,

    I think that it was the right choice for MS to do. If you read the WindowsSecrets Newsletter story they discuss the Anti-Spyware Testing by
    Eric L. Howes http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm

    Giant seemed to be better then the Ad-Aware+spybotS&D combo. I use both as well as spyware blaster and after reading the article I decided
    ( <img src=/S/nuts.gif border=0 alt=nuts width=15 height=15> very reluctantly <img src=/S/nuts.gif border=0 alt=nuts width=15 height=15> ) to install MS Bata version of the anti-spyware program and it found quite a few things that the others missed.... I was quite surprised. Maby that is how MS should start doing business..... Wait for a good piece of software to come around and buy it up..... AND STOP writing that dribble they call operating systems and all the other SW they spew out...

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    It has been said that Microsoft "innovates" by purchasing other software companies. There may be some truth in this.

    But however much one might criticise Microsoft operating systems, I cannot imagine that one could validly call them "drivel" (or even "dribble"!!). Even in the early days of MS-DOS, the operating system was non-trivial and took a (small) bunch of highly-intelligent techies to develop. Any Windows operating system extends this, but on an <big>industrial</big> scale! And Office is much more biggerer.

    Whether or not you like the results is up to you, but as sure as eggs is eggs, the end result is not drivel.

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    Dribble, noun, a thin stream of liquid; verb, allow saliva to run from the mouth.
    Always, adverb, 1 on all occasions; at all times. 2 forever. 3 repeatedly. 4 failing all else.

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    John,

    Your opinion is a valid one. however you misunderstood me. Dribble local slang meaning a never ending stream of mistakes not the literal meaning. I did not mean drivel or I would have used it..... sorry for the confusion ....

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    Dave,

    I didn't say a MAC, I said abetter mousetrap, meaning an entirely new OS that would be a universally accepted OS platform a la Windows and secure and user friendly a la MAC. Not a MACdows or a WinTOSH, but something new from the ground up.
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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    Corey,
    That same term should be then be appplied to all software produced by all vendors. Having been in the software business as both a client (work & home) and vendor for over 35 years, I can tell you without hesitation that there has always been a never ending stream of mistakes in every significant piece of software I've ever seen. And IMO there always will be. That said, MS and ALL vendors should be held accountable and fix/patch their errors. No one should get a free pass.

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    Cory,

    Ya gotta identify those "local coloquials" when ya post 'em. This is an international forum ya know and not everyone is familiar with the local jargon in everyone's part of the world. <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> I got called to task for using a term that parents used in the 1950's here in the US to describe a difficult child or situation. That term apparently has a very different connotation in the UK and the mods were on me like white on rice !! Just a simple turn of a phrase, but words are very powerful commodities. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    I do agree with John's point about MS "innovating" technique of buying other companies innovative ideas and then tweaking them a bit and calling them theirs. Who had ever heard of Giant before MS developed an interest ?? Coincidence that this "study" came out just as MS was working out the details of it's accquisition ?? I'm not so sure. As John rightly points out, Windows is not drivel and required a great deal of work by some very talented people. Unfortunately, in the rush to market they put out a flawed product and have been trying to fix it ever since. This, I think, is one instance where it would be benificial to "throw the baby out with the bath water" and start fresh. Just my <img src=/S/2cents.gif border=0 alt=2cents width=15 height=15> of course. <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>

    <font color=blue>A bit later....</font color=blue> For John...

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    Doc,

    You are so true <img src=/S/sorry.gif border=0 alt=sorry width=15 height=15> .....

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    Joe,

    I agree with you ,"that there has always been a never ending stream of mistakes in every significant piece of software" I did not mean that it is only MS that makes mistakes..... I ment that since they really don't have much competition that they really have no incentive to take the time to correct problems before release or after they find out about a problem.

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    Re: MS AntiSpyware Free

    I too installed the MS anti-spyware very reluctantly. I noted that it changed my IE home page to the default (I always use a blank page - on my Dell and my Mac). So I reset IE home to blank and ran the MS spyware beta. It identified one 'thingy' that ad aware and S&D missed. It told me that my home page setting had been hijacked <img src=/S/drop.gif border=0 alt=drop width=23 height=23> to 'about: blank' and offered to reset it to the MS default page.

    I quaranteed that sucker, and it hasn't come back. But this type of integrety issue is what bothers me about MS. Build a better mousetrap fine, but don't use that mousetrap for other purposes!

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