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    preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    I am having a problem getting my preference setting for the preview pane (I do not want it) to survive closing and re-starting the application. In other words, I de-select the preview pane in the layout selection of the view menu and then the next time that I start OE, the preview pane is back. Does anyone know whether there is a registry setting that applies to this setting?
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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    Have you tried a workaround? Hold the "cross-bar" that divides the preview pane from the folder contents list, and drag it down as far as it will go. That way you should only see the OE-generated summary of From and Subject. This could well prevent any "nasties" from executing. HTH
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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    I don't know of a registry tweak, but this workaround I found on Tom Coyote's site may give you more control over the behaviour.
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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    Are you sure that's a "safe" workaround ?? I would think that the preview pane is still open and able to cause harm. The message is still previewed, even if it's out of your sight, off the viewable area of the window. This is the same as shrinking the window size to remove the preview pane, isn't it ??
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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    <UL><LI>Given the additional steps that Mr Coyote requires for his workaround, it seems that any increase in safety for that method is marginal<LI>AFAIK different types of malware have different execution requirements. Not all malware would be stopped by the procedure I suggested - hence the use of "could well"<LI>If I believed my recommendation were "...the same as shrinking the window size to remove the preview pane..." I would not have suggested it<LI>People genuinely worried about e-mail security should be using a more secure e-mail client (either free or paid for) than Outlook Express[/list]
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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    I apologize if you took my comments as criticism. They were not intended as such.

    I was simply asking if, by using the workaround you suggested, the preview pane was, in fact, still opening and thus allowing the execution of certain types of malware. Since the reason for changing the setting, so that the preview pane doesn't open, is to prevent this from happening, I wondered if you felt it was safe and thus the analogy to shrinking the window size to remove the preview pane. As to Mr. Coyote's workaround containing extra steps and providing a marginal increase in safety at best, I have to say that I was presenting it as an alternative and not a better way. Excepting that it allowed the user a bit more control, via quicker access to the setting, it doesn't solve the problem. If the preview pane is opening by default, it's a security risk that needs to be fixed.

    Again, I apologize for any misunderstanding.
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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    "Criticism" is a bit too heavy a term for how I took your post. I simply wanted the OP to understand that I had thought the security implications through - as far as practicable.

    My instincts tell me that rolling the preview pane down that far forces OE to stop parsing the contents of the e-mail after it has reached the end of the Header information. As the "nasties" tend to be in the body (or attachments) these should not be parsed until the EU chooses to "display" them. Whether MS's "helpful" software really works that way is not known - hence my (and, I suspect, Mr Coyote's) caution.

    If things did work the way I have inferred, that would be consistent with the fact that the Header information is what is parsed in order to display the messages in "list" view (by any e-mail application. On that basis, it could be that additional software engineering would be required to hide the "header top preview" as well - deviating from the "shoestring" engineering approach that has always applied to OE.

    All the above + a cup of coffee = <img src=/S/coffeetime.gif border=0 alt=coffeetime width=32 height=48>

    In any event, it must be fairly certain that the full content of the e-mail (body and all) has been parsed if the (unadjusted Preview Pane) window has merely been minimised.

    There are other reasons for not showing the Preview Pane - such as optimising use of screen "real estate" - and the OP did not make any clear reference to Security issues. On that basis, I was (somewhat) inclined to take it as "read" that he could be applying additional steps (such as Plain Text etc) as a matter of course.

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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    I knew you had thought the security implications through. That's why I asked you if you thought that using your workaround still allowed the preview pane to open. I assumed that it did, but you have always had the technical knowledge & information to backup your posts and I figured you knew something I didn't. I don't know parsing from passing wind, but I know that you, Hans, and several other Loungers are far more technically informed than I will ever be, and that's one reason I'm here. I'd come here before I'd go to almost any tech support site or phone support. Only makes sense to go where you get the most help.

    But I think you and I are tilting at windmills now because the OP hasn't revisited this thread in 10 days. Nice chattin' with you unkamunka. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    I was watching the thread for a couple of days, but it didn't seem to catch any interest, so I quit... Anyway, I do appreciate the comments that have been posted recently, and as is noted in a couple of posts, my interest is in closing the hole presented by the preview screen. I suspect that just hiding it will not prevent malicious e-mail form activating. I visited the web page referenced and implemented the suggestions that it contained. It does make it easier to close the preview screen that comes up, but again, does not get rid of the thing on a permanent basis. I suspect that there is a bit flipped somewhere in the registry that controls this, but have not been able to find it yet. Your comments and advice are appreciated.

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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    Hi Dave,

    I think I found the registry edit you are looking for. This Google search, took me to this site where I found the following.......

    "You can disable the preview pane without starting Outlook Express by editing the registry. The following steps demonstrate how to disable to preview pane in Outlook Express:

    Note Using Registry Editor incorrectly can cause serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that problems resulting from the incorrect use of Registry Editor can be solved. Use Registry Editor at your own risk and preferably back it up prior to performing any modifications.

    * Click Start, click Run, type "regedt32" (without the quotation marks), and then click OK.
    * In Registry Editor, locate the following registry key: HKCUIdentities{Identity GUID}SoftwareMicrosoftOutLook Express5.0Mail
    * Click the ShowHybridView data value, click Edit, and change the DWORD value to 0.
    * Click OK and then restart Outlook Express."

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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23> Well done - it works for me!
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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    This appears to be the exact answer to my problem. I had tried google before, but apparently didn't know enough to use the search terms that produced your answer. I'm learning, I hope. Thanks again, this seems to have fixed the problem. Still, I am puzzled, (and you don't need to answer this) why didn't setting the view preferences make this change for me?

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    Re: preview pane setting not permanent (6.0)

    >why didn't setting the view preferences make this change for me?

    For whatever reason, it appears that Microsoft has not seen fit to rewrite the code for the normal user interface to enable this. Whether this facility will be included in the forthcoming Outlook Express 7.0 (to be expected at the same time as IE 7.0) has yet to be seen.

    HTH
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