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    Icon Cache vanishing act

    Evening all, I'll try to be brief. Received a new 'whopper' hard drive as a gift and have partitioned it into 5 parts. Decided it was a perfect time to do a fresh install of ME and have done some fairly major tweaking of the system, ie, page file, progs, docs and O/S all on separate partitions. Here is my problem, while everything is actually working fine, I noticed things are very sluggish at certain times.
    To cut a very long investigation short I found that my system does not contain the 'ShellIconCache' file in the windows directory. How or why this is escapes me. I have all hidden and system files visible and the puppy simply does not exist. I would not have thought it possible as I'm of the understanding that even if the file were deleted, the O/S would recreate it on the next boot.
    I have done a search of the entire drive for the file thinking Windows may have placed it on another partition for some MS reason but no dice.
    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, ciao - Michael.

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    Re: Icon Cache vanishing act

    Do you have reason to believe that the "missing" ShellIconCache is the root of your odd slowdowns? If so, what leads you to believe this is the case? The reason I put missing in quotes was because I have had times where I could not locate the file myself, knowing perfectly well that it was there. It's been long enough since this happened that I have forgotten how I managed to find it, but ultimately I did locate it.
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    Re: Icon Cache vanishing act

    Hi Mark, I'm not confident enough to say the missing file is the root of my slowdowns however I suspect it is a part of them. As with any fresh system I have ever put together it takes a while to iron things out so I'm guessing there are probably several small bugs lurking. The reason I singled out the shelliconcache file was simply it was the first thing I found that seemed not right. I keep many icons in the quick launch bar and I noticed at start up that it was taking forever to load them........this started the investigation.
    Explorer windows also take longer to load up, particularly where I use custom icons and I use many.
    You have me very curious as to how it occurred with your system that you also could not find it but ultimately did. No search parameters I try find it on my system. Thanks

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    Re: Icon Cache vanishing act

    Since there could be lots of "other" reasons for your sluggish machine, this is really an out of the ordinary suggestion. You might want to give a look at <!post=this post,442330>this post<!/post> and maybe even <!post=this one,451319>this one<!/post>. Both of those threads, in different boards, had to do with other problems, but increasing the icon cache was a suggestion that seems to have had "some" positive impact for a few of us. Now, here's the caveat - Phil is a Win98 user and I'm running WinXP Pro and his registry mod was applicable to both those OSs. However, I don't know if the WinME registry will behave or look the same way. It might be a good idea to make sure you've got a good backup in place before trying this (if you do). Not only might increasing the cache size assist performance, but who knows, maybe it will "jog" your machine's willingness to show you the <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> file.
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    Re: Icon Cache vanishing act

    Me did and does NOT like to be tweaked. It was marketed as a "as is" product and was MOT on the production line very long. The prime target was those who wanted a turn key system.
    My advice on any Me system is use ONLY the default install. If you want a power system, upgrade to XP and do away with Me.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Icon Cache vanishing act

    Before I go much further, I must confess that I agree wholeheartedly with Dave's comment about Windows ME not agreeing well with system tweaks. Microsoft really did not do well with this release.

    That said, I have been trying valiantly to recall just what the scenario was with my ShellIconCache issue. I do know that it was on a Windows 2000 Pro workstation, but the theory should be very similar - all version of Windows since 95 use a cache for icons. The Win9x platform was always worse at handling custom icons, particularly in large numbers.

    At this point, what I seem to recall is that I could not locate the file using the search facility in Windows. It seems to me that I was able to see it from a command prompt and not at all from Windows Explorer. Perhaps you could try opening a command prompt (Start - Run - command) and then changing into the directory where the file should be - C:WINDOWS on a default installation of ME. To view the file, you would need to enter ATTRIB -h ShellIconCache. You can also try entering DEL ShellIconCache - if Windows does not generate a "file not found" error, then you can assume that it has been wiped out.

    All this is relatively meaningless unless you have a good reason to believe that it is the cause of the problem. Try increasing the cache size, and consider using TweakUI to repair the icon cache - this sidesteps the need to open a command prompt, as it will delete the cache and recreate it for you.

    Also, take a loot at bootlog.txt for clues. In <!mskb=127970>Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 127970<!/mskb> there is a list of known "failures" that can appear, so you will need to look beyond these. The first thing I would do in this situation is to disable everything that is slated to start at boot-time, also known as a "clean boot" and then re-enable items until the problem recurs.

    Hope this gives you a few ideas to pursue!
    -Mark

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    Re: Icon Cache vanishing act

    Take a look here for solutions to rebuilding or restoring / replacing your ShellIconCache file. HTH <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Icon Cache vanishing act

    Hi folks. Thank you all for your input, I appreciate it. I'm basically working my way through what has been posted/suggested but it will take me some time as I have some distractions. A few quick thoughts though. Mark, I had tried to find the file via DOS with no luck and have just tried again, still no luck.
    I do have TweakUI installed and something in the back of my mind makes me think I had issues with it many years ago. I'm wondering if a setting I made in it somehow conflicted with Xteq which I use quite a bit.
    Anyway, these are random thoughts and I'll undo a few things and see what happens. Thanks again one and all, I'll post any progress - Michael

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    Re: Icon Cache vanishing act

    To be sure you notice it, there's an interesting tidbit at the bottom of the page in Doc's provided link. It has to do with "...all possible colors..." and I will be taking a look at what that does. The only reason I'm curious is that I too cannot find the file on my WinME machine, either in Windows or from the command prompt. I don't have the slowdown problem you do, but ...

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