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    Pictures not printing, yet showing on screen (2000)

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    I'm having trouble printing pictures in a document. I've followed guidance in <!mskb=285957>Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 285957<!/mskb> with no success i.e. Print Drawing objects is checked, Draft printing is unchecked, and all pictures are formatted as 'in line with text'. The problem file is too big to attach (even sucking out all pics but the smallest takes it over 100k).

    Help please!

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    Re: Pictures not printing, yet showing on screen (2000)

    Is a zip file with the stripped down document still over 100 KB?

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    Re: Pictures not printing, yet showing on screen (

    If the pictures are Inline with Text, they are not Drawing Objects. They either are fields (press Alt+F9 and see if they convert to field codes) or Pictures. If they are fields, you might want to convert them to pictures. First use Save As to avoid making any ruinous changes to your original document, then use Ctrl+Shift+F9 on the fields (e.g., EMBED MSPaint, INCLUDEPICTURE, etc.) to convert them to pictures. Does it help?

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    Re: Pictures not printing, yet showing on screen (

    Hi Jefferson,

    You had responded to my post 536,531 on "picture bloat-again". Your post suggested:

    "Check out post 524858 and post 455938 and see whether that helps."

    I did check out the posts and wanted to respond to you on my thread. However, your email does not seem to be in the thread.

    So I decided to respond here with some questions.

    As mentioned in my other posts, I don't tend to do much with pictures in Word. But looking in the 2nd post you referenced raises some confusion. It seems there's a distinction between EMBED and "picture". I tend to use the Insert | Picture | Clipart or From File choices. You suggest that one can convert an EMBED field by Ctrl+Shift+F9 to a "picture".
    1. When using the menu as I just mentioned, it seems you're getting a picture to start. Is that correct?

    2. How would one get an EMBEDed picture? I'm assuming one would have to use an EMBED field, which I don't even see in Word 2003. I vaguely recall such a field in older versions but didn't see it now. Has that been done away with in newer versions? Your post in the 2nd thread also seems to suggest that EMBED is somehow tied to MS Paint, which I don't use.

    3. You also mention INCLUDEPICTURE as a culprit. I do see that in the list of available fields. Why would one use that if one can just use Insert | Picture...? Apparently, there must be a difference between the field and the menu approach - what is that?

    4. I mentioned that when I right clicked on my picture, inserted by Insert | Picture..., that I did not get any Field options. Similarly, I couldn't select it and use Alt+F9 to see any field codes. Therefore, it is obviously not a field.

    5. Is the "Picture Layer", which I've heard much about but not understood it, somehow involved with the differences between Insert | Picture and the various "field approaches"? I recall there was an option to turn the picture layer on and off, although I can't seem to find it right now. I believe I turned it off once but don't see the item in Options right now.

    Anyway, that's about all for now on this. TIA

    Fred

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    Re: Pictures not printing, yet showing on screen (

    Yes, I deleted that post because it seemed you had already accounted for the possibility in your original post. I have a bad habit of replying quickly, then re-reading the original post and discovering that what I posted was irrelevant. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    Anyway, to address the new questions:
    1. <LI>When using [Insert > Picture > Clipart or From File] as I just mentioned, it seems you're getting a picture to start. Is that correct?

      <UL>In recent versions of Word, yes. In earlier versions, I believe there was an option to "float over text" at the time of insertion. That might have resulted in something other than a picture; I don't remember..

    <LI>How would one get an EMBEDed picture? ...

    <UL>If you do a Select All and Copy in MS Photo Editor or the Paint accessory and then paste into Word, Word usually creates an EMBED field. Using Insert>Object also might create such a field.[/list]
    <LI>You also mention INCLUDEPICTURE as a culprit. ...

    <UL>This is typically used to link images from the web or from a local folder. A copy is maintained in the document for previewing, and updating fields will replace that from the original. I find these to be rather unpredictable...[/list]
    <LI>I mentioned that when I right clicked on my picture, inserted by Insert | Picture..., that I did not get any Field options. Similarly, I couldn't select it and use Alt+F9 to see any field codes. Therefore, it is obviously not a field.

    <UL>That seems true. Hence my deletion of my post.[/list]
    <LI>Is the "Picture Layer", which I've heard much about but not understood it, somehow involved with the differences between Insert | Picture and the various "field approaches"? I recall there was an option to turn the picture layer on and off, although I can't seem to find it right now. I believe I turned it off once but don't see the item in Options right now.

    <UL>The "Drawing layer" is where pictures go when you change them from "inline" to anything else. However, I do not believe this can change the size of the image. It might make embedded objects more difficult to manage... I try not to find these things out. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>[/list][/list]Hope that covers it!

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    Re: Pictures not printing, yet showing on screen (

    >The "Drawing layer"

    see - I told you I didn't understand much about the "Picture Layer" <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    Thanks.

    Fred

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