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    Life after Norton

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    I've given up on Norton Utilities. I've been using Utilities and then SystemWorks since time began but recent versions (I'm now at 2003) seem to be bogged down with ever more features yet it seems less utilities for more dosh. The final straw has been that, after installing Nortons Internet Suite, the Utilities part of the package has gone awol. I've tried uninstall/reinstall to no avail. Oddly for a package that's suppose to clean out unwanted programs, there is no way of uninstalling Norton completely - it just won't go away.

    I've decided either to find a different package of utilities or to create my own. The 3 biggies seem to be a Windows (registry?) cleaner, a disk doctor and a defragger. Buying separately may be rather more expensive but might provide much better tools.

    For a package, VCom's Fix-it seems to cover all bases although their System suite does a Norton with features I don't want. There doesn't seem much else. Anyone use Fix-it? Any good?

    Individually, the web seems awash with individual programs, some free and some almost as expensive as packages, and I don't know quite where to start. Even AlanMiller's Great Software List is awash with competing programs. I'd like to hear from other loungers what their choice of reliable programs are to make up a utility suite.

    (By the way, I use Zone Alarm suite for security programs so don't need anything that covers that sort of thing).

    David

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    Re: Life after Norton

    Hi David

    I too gave up on Norton stuff a while back. As you say, there's a ton of potential replacements out there, but what to choose?

    First, I was delighted to find a tip from someone, that said that the NU WinDoctor program would run direct from the CD! This amazed me, but was correct, at least for NU 2002. I don't know of any freebie that matches this one, so find something else to rest your beer on till you try it out.

    There are lots of registry cleaners about and RegSeeker is a favourite, but I'd also recommend the older jv16 Powertools. The last <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>ware version is available at
    http://digilander.libero.it/rareware/jv16pt_setup.zip or
    http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/dl...6-1.3.0.195.zip.
    The reason I like this one so much is that it can show software entries by title/ author. This means that if you've "removed" a program and its title still appears, you know something stray has not been cleaned out, and you can safely nuke its leftover entries from that same screen. I don't know of any others that give this functionality, at least with such simplicity.

    Other than that, it's a bit of trial & error to see what suits... and there's plenty to choose from! And always remember to set all registry programs to save a backup.

    Alan

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    Re: Life after Norton

    I've used Fix-It utilities for several years now (since version 3) and, unless VCom does something bad to the product, I will stick with it. I especially like the registry cleaner. It gives detailed information about what should be changed, gives you the option to change/not change and backs up what was changed. It is very detailed, though.

    Tom Kadlec

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    Re: Life after Norton

    I'll agreee with Alan about Regseeker. Also, check out EasyCleaner at Official ToniArts software pages. It is <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>. I have both and hardly ever use either. For defragging, several loungers (myself included) use PerfectDisk from Raxco. Others use Diskeeper from Executive Software.

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    Re: Life after Norton

    I've used diskeeper for years on a sequence of Windows versions and wouldn't be without it.
    Charlotte

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    Re: Life after Norton

    I also would highly recommend Diskeeper. It's fast, low profile and you can schedule it to run whenever, although the "Set It and Forget It" option is hardly beatable.

    Another good Registry Cleaner is CrapCleaner.

    I have a related question: Does anyone know if you can remove Norton AV from the SystemWorks suite, leaving the Utilities so you can run another AV program or even install Norton AV Corporate edition?

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    Re: Life after Norton

    EasyCleaner is good to have in the toolbox too. But I do know of people who have run into problems using the duplicate files deletion options. I'd suggest not using the Duplicates functionality unless you really know what your doing... and since very few of us are clairvoyants, I'd suggest avoiding it altogether. There are safer alternatives for this kind of cleaning.

    Alan

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    Re: Life after Norton

    Many thanks to you all.

    Allan's tip about Norton WinDoctor being available from the CD was great and is correct also for SystemWorks 2003. DiskDoctor also runs from the CD.

    I've downloaded both defraggers. PerfectDisk seems the easier program and has more functionality although I don't yet understand why it can't see my swapfile. Diskkeeper is free so that's a powerful incentive.

    I've more or less dropped the need to have a reg cleaner now that I've found that WinDoctor still works. RegSeeker and jv16 look pretty good though.

    By the way I tried a program called Reg-Vac which said it vacuumed areas other cleaners didn't reach. It did - it removed many of my active shortcuts including those on the taskbar.

    David

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