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    Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (OL2003)

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    Hello,

    In OL2003, using HTML for message format and Word to edit e-mail messages, two image files (image001.png & image002.png) are attached to each message, whether any other files are attached, or not.

    The file image001.png appears to be a Microsoft generated image (have seen it on some Microsoft web pages), while the second file image002.png, is an image that I have as a button on my toolbar in Word. Why OL2003 selects this particular file for attachment is unclear to me, as I have two similar images also on my toolbar, but none of these gets attached.

    Unmarking the "Microsoft Office Word to edit e-mail messages", removes the offending two files from the messages. Also, changing "Compose in this message format" to "Plain", removes (does not attach) the offending two files.

    I don not use a specified stationery, but even if I select the Blank, the two files will be attached.

    On the recipient side (also using OL2003), the message, as displayed in the Inbox, do not indicate that there are attachments enclosed. You either have to open the message, or view it in the Reading pane to see the attachments.

    I have put this question on a in a few Newsgroups over the last six months, but never had one single suggestion, even though I know that I am not alone in having this problem. I have also looked at the Microsoft Knowledgebase several times, but not discovered any solution to the problem. There is, however, one reference to using the RTF format and that one file, containing non-secure user information, gets attached to messages composed in RTF.

    Does anybody have any suggestion whatsoever, what these files do, or why they get included, or how I get rid of them?

    Eric G

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    Could it be a rogue signature? If you try changing your Word-editor signature, does that make any difference?

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17> It probably is better not to use Word for composing HTML... all that bloated code.

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    Hello,

    No, I don't use signatures. Just to test, I've added a signature, then changed it and lastly, removed it, but the result is the same.

    This problem is one I've had for a very long time, and it started with mails I received for many different senders, that had two attachments (images001.png & image002.png). Later I discovered that even my own mails had these two attachments, and now I very often receive mails with these unwanted attachments.

    As I mentioned above, there is a reference to a file being attached to OL 2003 messages in the Microsoft Knowledgebase, article id 278061, "Winmail.dat attachments are included in received e-mail messages in Outlook 2002 or in Outlook 2003", but nothing in that article refers to images001.png & image002.png using HTML as message format.

    I do agree that the code generated by word is somewhat voluminous, but OL2003 and Word 2003, (Office 2003) is an integrated package used my many. Also, the integration offers an attractive working environment with many other features and easy layout. It is, of course, possible to use Plain text for composing messages and avoid this problem, but then can also argue that why use e-mail, when there is postal services.

    My problem lies in the attachments and I would like to solve this problem, as, I'm sure, may other users would as well. I'm not alone in this.

    This is the first time I'm using Woody's Lounge (great place by the way!), so I'm a little bit unsure of how to use the various features, but as far as I can see, I can only attach one file to my message, why I have enclosed the first attachment.

    I look forward to any relevant comments on this topic.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    You can attach only one file to a post, but that can be a zip file containing several files. The attachment may not exceed 100 KB in size.

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    Thanks very much for your advice. Much appreciated.

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    Are you using a local server (such as Exchange) or sending direct via your ISP?

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    I have noticed that some of my colleagues' messages have the signature graphics attached rather than displayed inline. Sometimes I think this relates to having a Groupwise or Notes users in the thread, but other times I can't figure out the reason. These things can be tricky to debug, obviously.

    > It is, of course, possible to use Plain text for composing messages and avoid this problem, but then
    > can also argue that why use e-mail, when there is postal services.

    I always use Plain Text unless there is a special reason to use HTML. While it doesn't impress the eyes, I'm not in the business of making fancy things, so that isn't an impediment. (No one wants to pay me extra for marginally nicer formatting.) Message size is compact and the content is rendered accessibly on Blackberries and Treos. I never have to worry about odd scripts being embedded, or people not able to see our linked Logo because they're offline, or having it "converted" along the way by a server. And it's quite fast, much faster than even an overnight delivery service. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    Leif,

    No Exchange in the case, simple POP3 at the ISP.

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    Hello,

    No, in my case I'm not using Groupwise or Notes. If I attach a signature graphis it ends up where it should, so there are no problems there.

    You most certainly have a point about the Plain Text messages, but at the same time, I feel that since we now have all these fancy systems (that's supposed to work) and that we've paid good money for, we should use them. Then it is also my personal point of view, that good aesthetics, or good design (in whatever product we're taking about), does not necessarily mean that it is of poorer quality, even if there are many examples to the contrary as well.

    Plain text has many uses, but, and, without being facetious, Woody's Lounge is a perfectl example of good use of design and technology. Remember the BBS', that not that long ago were the height of fashion for discussion technical and other matters. And DOS (yes, I actually lived in that era), that had a great number of followers (me, among them), for a very long time.

    As I said, this is my personal point of view and I do appreciate your comment, but at the same time I still wonder what these two files are that are being attached to messages. And, as I said previously, why don't they show up as attachments in the OL 2003 Inbox, but only in the Reading pane and when you open the message. Also, it's not only on my system this phenomena occurs, but I receive messages from a great number of people, spread all over the world, that's got two files unintentionally attached to their messages, the first one, image001.png always is the same (see my previous attachment), but the second, image002.png, differs.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    Eric, it's a strange problem. Nothing in Slipstick or OurlookExchange on this problem. A couple of shots in the dark:

    Can you find those files on your hard drive? If you move them to another folder is the problem solved?

    Have you added autotext anywhere in Word that includes those graphic files?

    I know you don't use signatures, but if you ever created them with those graphics, it's been my experience that Outlook can hold onto them even after you delete the graphic from the sig. So in addition to setting Outlook not to use them, I recommend that you remove any files from this location:

    Cocuments and Settings<your user name>Application DataMicrosoftSignatures
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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    Hello John,

    No, I've scanned my system for these files, but no such luck. Neither are they anywhere in the "Cocuments and SettingsEditorLocal SettingsApplication DataMicrosoft" subdirectory. In fact, the subdirectory "Signatures" doesn

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    There is one image attached to <post#=468987>post 468987</post#>.

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by Leif on 13-Apr-05 08:42. to add combined images as one attachment. Image1 on left, Image 2 on right.)</P>Leif,

    I'm so sorry that I forgot to attach the last image, but here it is (both of them, actually), in a zip file.

    Eric

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    No problem! - I took the liberty of combining them into one attachment and adding them to your post <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Default attachments in HTML Message Format? (O

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by DaveA on 13-Apr-05 07:43. Missed it, it was to small for my eyes to see)</P>I have yet to see a posted image if these attachments.

    Since you are using Word as your editor, have you looked at the email template to see if they are included there

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