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    ie6, images not appearing

    I am still trying to figure out why certain images won't appear on my screen. I have attached a sample of what I see so hopefully someone can take a stab at what I need to have installed.
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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    Well, first off the title of the image gives this away:
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.wopr.com/w3tfiles/12-43886-clearpixel.gif>http://www.wopr.com/w3tfiles/12-43886-clearpixel.gif</A>

    That is a "clear pixel" gif. Therefore, the image is, eh, CLEAR! Clear gif's can be used for various purposes - some completely benign, and others quite nefarious. It frequently depends on the size of the image.

    These are frequently used benignly to position various objects on a web page -- so that the page looks better. The clear image is used as a 'spacer'.

    However, by the title of your image -- a "clear pixel" implies a 1x1-pixel clear image. These are frequently WEB BUGS! If you are not up to date on these, this makes for an interesting topic.

    The clear 1x1 pixel gif is usually NOT from the web page your are viewing. They typically are placed by advertising companies (e.g., doubleclick) to track your web surfing habits. Since your browser has to go to the other site to obtain the clear pixel, that other site "KNOWS" that you are visiting the site you are presently on. That second site can also examine its previously placed cookie on your computer and find out more information about who you are and where else you have been!

    That is briefly the concept behind the so-called "Web Bugs". HOWEVER, in this case, it appears the clearpixel.gif originates from wopr??? Or is that simply an effect of posting the image to this site??

    I would find it unlikely that woodyswatch would be using Web Bugs. Anyone else care to comment?

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    There were actually two files to select whaen I saved the image.I have attached the other one. When I'm on another computer this placecard actually shows a tool bar that is used for site navigation. There is no way it will appear on my computer though so the site it virtualy useless to me.
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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    That second image is simply a "blue dot". It is very small and easily missed. There is no toolbar associated with that tiny blue dot -- at least not what you have attached.

    Again, this tiny size .gif's are highly suspicious. What web page are they from? I will be happy to look into this further.
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    I just realized that BOTH of your attachments are actually displayed below your post. If you look very carefully at your last post you will see the tiny blue dot. If you right click the dot and select properties, you will see that it is the tell-tale 1x1 pixel size. Warning, Warning Will Robinson! You/ve been web bugged.

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    OK, one of the problems is that the website in question is LOADED with ActiveX controls, ActiveX plug-ins, Active Scripting, and all kinds of other potential badness. Anyone one of these can potentially screw up your computer.

    Also, that site keeps insisting on installing some new program that I do not want on my computer!! I keep saying NO to that site.

    Additionally, I am NEVER given the option to go residential vs comercial. I am immediate wisked to residential after I enter the password.

    Once I get to the .../residential/agent/index.html page, I apparently see all the images -- as best I can tell. Again, I have refused installing their special software because my browser warns me that this is a security risk...

    Even when I run my mouse pointer over the white parts of the page, I do not run into a clear.gif. This may just be bad luck.

    Go back to the page and find the clear.gif OR the bluedot.gif. Right-click and select properties to see the origin of these 1x1 pixel .gif's. Let me know what the source of these are and tell me as best you can where I might find them on the page.

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    Hello again
    I went into the site and it did default to the residential side. The home page has some sort of carnival ride center and to the right but it is the blue box (navigational frame) on the left which won't display. I right clicked and selected properties and this is what it says
    Left Navigation Frame
    HyperText Transfer Protocol
    HTML Document
    Not Encrypted
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/resnav.html>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia...ent/resnav.html</A>
    6337 bytes
    05/24/2001
    Not sure if that helps.

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    OK, the url you posted gets me to the "Left Navigation Frame" - which is a blue list starting with "Education/cbu.com". This frame always appears on the left side of the main page when I visit it (the one I referenced above). Are you not seeing this frame? Is it replaced with a 1x1 pixel gif??

    Again, when I go to that "Left Navigation Frame" url, that site tries to drop a new control on to my computer and I tell it NO (sorry, but I am a security freak and I don't want new controls on my system without my permission).

    Since you were able to capture those 1x1 gifs before, you must be able to locate them on that page. The Left Navigation Frame does NOT appear to be a 1x1 gif when I visit that site. If you find a 1x1 gif on that site, you should be able to find the source by right-click/Properties.

    There is one other way. The page below links to the "Bugnosis" program. If you install and use this, it will find 1x1 pixel gifs on any website and tell you where they are from.

    This page: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6220048.html?tag=mn_hd>http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...html?tag=mn_hd</A>

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    I have been discussing this on other boards. The 1x1 clear gif pixel is POSSIBLY a web bug, but some web page developers argue that they use it for other reasons as well (spacing, place-marking). So, perhaps Richard Smith, et al, are over-calling these things web bugs! I really only know what I read.

    However, you can view the source of the 1x1 clear gif in IE5.0 and above by right-clicking any where on the page and selecting "Images List". For example, on this posting page there is only ONE image -- the Woody's Lounge name up top. It is 1390 bytes in size, 244x28 pixels, and it comes from: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://wopr.com/w3timages/lounge.gif>http://wopr.com/w3timages/lounge.gif</A>

    Go to your page and see if you can find WHERE the 1x1 pixel gifs originate from. Web bugs generally will be coming from a site that is NOT related to the site you are viewing -- e.g., <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.double.net>http://www.doubleclick.net</A>.

    I hope this helps.

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    Tried to install this but.....
    Can't Install Bugnosis



    Bugnosis currently only works with Internet Explorer 5.x running on Microsoft Windows operating systems. It does not work with MSN Explorer.

    Bugnosis is having some difficulties with IE 6.0, so it is temporarily unavailable for installation on that platform. We hope to have this issue resolved soon
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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    List of all images in CBNet:

    Image URL Count on Page Size (bytes) WxH (pixels) Image Scale large images
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/autogen/clearpixel.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia.../clearpixel.gif</A> 2 43 1x1
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/dot_newblue.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia...dot_newblue.gif</A> 4 43 1x1
    Frame: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/top.html>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/resi...agent/top.html</A>

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/sample_4_topframe.jpg>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia..._4_topframe.jpg</A> 1 13650 775x81
    Frame: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/topnav.html>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia...ent/topnav.html</A>

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/greenhome.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia...s/greenhome.gif</A> 1 1132 107x28
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/greenhelpguide.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia...enhelpguide.gif</A> 1 1415 106x28
    Frame: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/body.html>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/resi...gent/body.html</A>

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/bodytopnavigation.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia...pnavigation.gif</A> 1 4789 576x33
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/assets/images/autogen/clearpixel.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia.../clearpixel.gif</A> 1 43 1x1
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/realtorcom.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia.../realtorcom.gif</A> 1 865 90x49
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/cblogo1a.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia...es/cblogo1a.gif</A> 1 3767 80x33
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residential/agent/images/realtorcomtagline.gif>http://cbnet.coldwellbanker.com/residentia...rcomtagline.gif</A> 1 1919 200x10
    Unique images: 10 Total images: 14 Total bytes:
    27666

    Image loading will take about:
    18.28 seconds @ 14.4
    9.14 seconds @ 28.8

    4.7 seconds @ 56K





    Images List utility for Internet Explorer
    Version: 1.05
    The top two seem to be the ones for the Navbigation bar. All the rest have a picture in the side showing what the image looks like but the top two have nothing.
    Thanks
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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    OK, for completeness sake, here is the entire code for the Left Navigation Menu:
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    <html>

    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1">
    <title>Left Navigation Frame</title>
    <meta name="generator" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
    <meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
    </head>

    <body bgcolor="ffffff" marginwidth="0" leftmargin="0" marginheight="0" topmargin="0">

    <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" height="25">
    <tr>
    <td align="center"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="4">[img]images/autogen/clearpixel.gif[/img]</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="4">[img]images/dot_newblue.gif[/img]</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td> <applet code="ippbx602.class" width="175" height="272" mayscript>
    <PARAM NAME="copyright" VALUE="Image Intelligence Ltd. (<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.imint.com>http://www.imint.com</A>)">
    <PARAM NAME="licencee" VALUE="Coldwell Banker Real Estate Corporation">
    <PARAM NAME="config0" VALUE="9k1355855011850156">
    <PARAM NAME="config1" VALUE="9a1200180731630281">
    <PARAM NAME="config2" VALUE="951137661201510357">
    <param name=cabbase value="ippbx.cab">
    <param name=archive value="ippbx.jar">


    <param name="menustyles" value="4">
    <param name="menustylelogic" value="2">

    <param name="topmenualign" value="2">

    <param name=menu0colour0 value="000066"> // background
    <param name=menu1colour0 value="000066"> // fill
    <param name=menu2colour0 value="99ccff"> // outer BR
    <param name=menu3colour0 value="000066"> // inner BR
    <param name=menu4colour0 value="99ccff"> // inner TL
    <param name=menu5colour0 value="000066"> // outer TL

    <param name=text0colour0 value="ffffff"> // normal text
    <param name=text1colour0 value="0020a0"> // focus text
    <param name=text2colour0 value="99ccff"> // focus rectangle
    <param name=text3colour0 value="6b6331"> // separator top
    <param name=text4colour0 value="ba9952"> // separator bottom
    <param name=text5colour0 value="ffffff"> // normal shadow
    <param name=text6colour0 value="883333"> // focus shadow

    <param name=menu0colour1 value="6666CC"> // background
    <param name=menu1colour1 value="6666CC"> // fill
    <param name=menu2colour1 value="0020a0"> // outer BR
    <param name=menu3colour1 value="99ccff"> // inner BR
    <param name=menu4colour1 value="99ccff"> // inner TL
    <param name=menu5colour1 value="0020a0"> // outer TL

    <param name=text0colour1 value="ffffff"> // normal text
    <param name=text1colour1 value="0020a0"> // focus text
    <param name=text2colour1 value="99ccff"> // focus rectangle
    <param name=text3colour1 value="6b6331"> // separator top
    <param name=text4colour1 value="ba9952"> // separator bottom
    <param name=text5colour1 value="ffffff"> // normal shadow
    <param name=text6colour1 value="883333"> // focus shadow

    <param name=menu0colour2 value="000066"> // background
    <param name=menu1colour2 value="000066"> // fill
    <param name=menu2colour2 value="0020a0"> // outer BR
    <param name=menu3colour2 value="99ccff"> // inner BR
    <param name=menu4colour2 value="99ccff"> // inner TL
    <param name=menu5colour2 value="0020a0"> // outer TL

    <param name=text0colour2 value="ffffff"> // normal text
    <param name=text1colour2 value="0020a0"> // focus text
    <param name=text2colour2 value="99ccff"> // focus rectangle
    <param name=text3colour2 value="6b6331"> // separator top
    <param name=text4colour2 value="ba9952"> // separator bottom
    <param name=text5colour2 value="ffffff"> // normal shadow
    <param name=text6colour2 value="883333"> // focus shadow


    <param name=menu0colour3 value="0020a0"> // background
    <param name=menu1colour3 value="0020a0"> // fill
    <param name=menu2colour3 value="0020a0"> // outer BR
    <param name=menu3colour3 value="99ccff"> // inner BR
    <param name=menu4colour3 value="99ccff"> // inner TL
    <param name=menu5colour3 value="0020a0"> // outer TL

    <param name=text0colour3 value="ffffff"> // normal text
    <param name=text1colour3 value="0020a0"> // focus text
    <param name=text2colour3 value="99ccff"> // focus rectangle
    <param name=text3colour3 value="6b6331"> // separator top
    <param name=text4colour3 value="ba9952"> // separator bottom
    <param name=text5colour3 value="ffffff"> // normal shadow
    <param name=text6colour3 value="883333"> // focus shadow



    <param name="topmenubuttons" value="1">
    <param name="topmenubullets" value="off">

    <param name="submenubullets" value="2">
    <param name="submenuYoffset" value="0">

    <param name="bgcol1" value="0020a0">
    <param name="bgcol2" value="99ccff">
    <param name="bgcol7" value="0020a0">
    <param name="bgcol6" value="99ccff">
    <param name="bgcol3" value="99ccff">
    <param name="bgcol4" value="0020a0">
    <param name="bgcol5" value="0020a0">
    <param name="sepcol1" value="99ccff">
    <param name="sepcol2" value="ffffff">
    <param name="titlecol1" value="000000">
    <param name="titlecol2" value="3366ff">
    <param name="textcol1" value="FFFFFF">
    <param name="textcol2" value="0020a0">
    <param name="textcol3" value="99ccff">
    <param name="menufile" value="res.txt">
    <param name="textsize" value="11">
    <param name="textstyle" value="1">
    <param name="textfont" value="Helvetica">
    <param name="colourscheme" value="8">
    <param name="displaymode" value="0">
    <param name="helpmode" value="1">
    <param name="xoffset" value="-2">
    <param name="padding" value="0">
    <param name="buttons" value="2">
    <param name="textXoffset" value="-1">
    <param name="textYoffset" value="2">
    <param name="iconXoffset" value="-4">
    <param name="imgXoffset" value="2">
    <param name="imgYoffset" value="2">
    <param name="bullets" value="off">
    <param name="overlap" value="0">

    <param name="entryheight" value="2"><!--param name=boxcol1 value="d0d0a0">
    <param name=boxcol2 value="404020"--> <param name=escapepage value="../escape.htm"-->



    You will need to activate java to view this menu.</p>
    </applet></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="2">[img]images/dot_newblue.gif[/img]</td>
    </tr>
    </table>

    </body>

    </html>
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    It appears that the 1x1 pixels are simply being used as place marks or something equal benign. It also appears to be in plain HTML -- not ActiveX or Java.

    I have no idea why you cannot see that bar. It looks fine to me on multiple computers...

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    The top two are the 1x1 pixel images. The second one is not clear, but it is actually a very small blue dot.

    Since they originate from the same web site, then they MAY not be web bugs.

    They definitely are NOT a "Navigation bar", but perhaps they are place marks for where this bar should go??

    I appears that you are NOT downloading the Navition bar. Have you set you Security settings is such a way to block downloading this?? I have very tight restriction in my Internet zone, yet I still see the blue Navigation bar.

    Let me check the codes on that page...

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    Ah, wait!! I almost missed it. See this line:

    **You will need to activate java to view this menu.**

    Is your Java persmission set correctly? Go under Tools | Internet Options... | Security | Internet (zone) | Custom level... | Microsoft VM | Java Permissions -- and see what it says.

    Next, MAYBE your version of Java is too old. Hold down the "Windows" button (between Ctrl and Alt) and hit the "R" key. In the Run box, type "wjview" (no quotes) and hit Enter. In the resulting screen, look at the top line and see what Version is listed.

    **This MUST be a Java problem.**

    If you click on the web site listed in the code, it brings you here: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.imint.com/index.html>http://www.imint.com/index.html</A>

    This site is for "Java menus / navigation applets" -- which is exactly what that object is.

    I have to believe your problem is do to Java. Please tell me what version you have and find out what your persmissions are set at.

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    Whoopie! I fixed the problem thanks to your help. I went on to Microsoft and reinstalled IE. In the custom set up there was a Java selection that needed to be updated.
    Thanks for your help

    Shirley

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    Re: ie6, images not appearing

    IE 6.0 on on will NOT and do NOT have the Java script installed do to the Sun law suit <img src=/S/aflame.gif border=0 alt=aflame width=15 height=15>. We will now have the requirement to go and download the Virtual Machine <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> from MS or the Java machine(?) <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> from Sun.

    This is what all of these law suits are going to do to us.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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