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    Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Hi All,

    I often have numerous windows open. As more open, the width of the corresponding button gets smaller (assuming they're not stacked).

    In some programs, like Word, the lead characters of the button reflect the document name. So even a narrow button may reflect enough text to know which Word button corresponds to which document.

    However, in IE, the lead characters are somewhat useless. This is especially true for saved web pages where the entire button, even when hovering, may provide no clue as to which "document" corresponds to which button.

    Is there a way, in general, for me to be able to set the info I want to appear on the task bar button? If there is no general way, is there a way to do this just for IE buttons, since that's the worst culprit of providing absolutely no info at all?

    TIA

    Fred

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Hi Fred:
    I don't know of a way, but I take it that you don't like the alternative of grouping the taskbar items into context menus, where you can see a little more. Start/Settings/Taskbar & Start Menu properties/Group similar taskbar items. (Of course, I don't use IE usually. I prefer a browser that has tabbed browsing, like Firefox or Avant Browser.) <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Hi Phil,

    Haven't "seen" you around much lately. Thanks for the idea but the grouping doesn't do what I want.

    Let me explain what I'm doing, which is not atypical of what I do.

    I am doing research on a case for a term paper (I'm not a lawyer - just doing research for a class). I have 4 cases that I got from a web site that I converted into Word for numerous reasons. These are all open at the same time since they're related (District Ct, Appeals Ct, Supreme Ct for all same case). I have 2 Notepad files open with my private notes from those cases. I may also have 2-3 cases that are cited in the main case(s) but these are saved web pages.

    It's not so much the width of the individual buttons. The Word buttons have the doc name at the beginning of the button. Moreover, if I hover over them, I can see the full name that I gave the file followed by "Microsoft Word". Similar for notepad. So by hovering or just seeing the first few letters on the button, I know which one to click one if I want to restore the window.

    But it's the 2-3 IE windows that are my problem. They all say "Document - Microsoft Internet Explorer" when I hover or just look at the button (even in grouped mode). Nothing of the file name that I saved the page as is reflected in the contents of the button. Worthless.

    So I'm not sure what a tabbed browser would do for me since I've not tried one.

    Fred

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Fred,

    IE is just displaying the 'title' specified in the HTML. You really don't have a choice AFAIK.

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    You could try changing the Title tag of the saved web pages.

    If you open up the main HTML document with something like Notepad, at the top you should see the <code><head></code> section. Insert or edit the <code><title></code> tag to what you want it to be within the <code><head></code> and <code></head></code> markers.

    As an example, save the attached file locally, then rename the extension to .htm. This should open in your browser with a Tab title of "Fred's Page #1".

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Hi Fred:
    No, I haven't been around much lately. Many reasons but I hope that will soon change. In any event, a tabbed browser wouldn't show each indivdual tab on the taskbar. But if you clicked on the Avant Browser or Firefox button, you would see the titles in each tab. It would also mean that the other taskbar buttons would be larger, since there would only be one browser button on the taskbar. It is two clicks, however...one for the browser & one for the tab. Personally, I think once you try tabbed browsing, you'll never look back.

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Hi Phil,

    Still not sure what tabbed browsing would do for my specific problem of being able to see enough info in the task bar button to know which one to click. Let me grant you for the moment that this feature allows me to open up multiple web pages within the browser pgm and switch back and forth between them by clicking a tab or something like the Window menu in Word and choosing the window. Also similar to how Editpad allows multiple tabs for txt files with easy switching back within Editpad and forth compared to Notepad's one window. Sounds like it's 2 clicks as you said if the browser window is minimized at the moment.

    The issue, as far as I can tell, is that the tabs would still be named something like "web site - Microsoft Internet Explorer" where web site is the name of the site from where I accessed the cases, not the name of the case saved in a particular file.

    But I think Leif gave me the answer so see his msg in the thread and my answer to him, which I'm just about to do after this one.

    Thanks.

    Fred

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Leif,

    EXCELLENT! <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15>

    I tried it on one of my own saved web pages and the result is exactly what I want.

    But the process of getting there is a bit of a pain (I save lots of web pages when I'm in research mode like this). So let's see if we can go for the gold.

    Is there a way to do either one of the following (actually would prefer both for reasons I'll mention below):
    - during the Save As process in IE, have a dialog pop up that asks me what value I'd like to have in the title tag and makes the change as part of the process; I've noticed that there can be Java Script in the saved page (obviously put there by the page author) and add-ons to IE so don't know if this is possible. Either way, it would be something beyond my means.
    - create some kind of script that can be accessed via an htm file's context sensitive menu or even via the Send To menu which shows a dialog box with the file name (just a reminder of the file I started with that I've already named as I want), shows me the current title tag (not really rqd), provides me with a blank fill-in box to type in my own title tag, overwrites (or creates) the title tag with my value, saves the file and exits.

    The first one would be the preferred approach for any new pages to be saved while the latter would be used for ones I've already saved. Obviously the latter could be used after saving any future pages (just like it could be used for the ones I've already saved).

    Maybe the 2 ideas can be combined into one. For example, open one of my saved cases/files, click on something that resets the title tag (w/o having to view the source) like the dialog mentioned mentioned in #2 above, and saves the source like you would do when exiting from Notepad if doing this "manually." The existence of a file name might need to be checked but it's not a big deal to me if the title tag does not exactly match the file name (I'd make sure there's enough commonality so that whether I look at file names in Win Exp or tags on task bar buttons, I'd know what's what).

    I also noticed that IE has a Save choice on its File menu but it always seems to be grayed out even after I make a change to the Source (I guess I've saved the changes before exiting Notepad).

    Thanks.

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    I'm afraid this is where I'm probably not going to be much more help.

    If you open the HTML file in Word, you can set the Title in the document properties (File > Properties) - but I don't know what effect opening and saving in Word might affect any included script. If it works, perhaps a quick macro or two might do the job.

    Alternatively, from the File Menu in IE, select 'Edit with Microsoft Word for Windows' and then, having set your Title, save from there.
    (Bear in mind that Word is notorious for adding bloat to HTML, but whether or not this happens in this case I'm not sure.)

    Otherwise, I think this is no longer an XP issue - it may be worth raising a new thread in the IE or HTML forums - or even Word if that seems a promising route - where you may get more applicable expertise!
    (If you do, can you post back with a link to the new thread for interested parties?)

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Hi Leif,

    Thanks for the ideas. I don't know if opening in Word would be any quicker than opening in a text editor, altho it might lend itself easier to a macro to alter the properties. As you say, it may also add bloat. On one file, changing the properties changed the original file size from 50KB to 55 KB. 10% is quite a bit.

    As to which forum to post to, that's a good question. I might add the SW Finds and Wants, since they often talk about editing tags of mpeg and jpeg files there. This is not much different than that. Let me think for a moment and make a decision. Alan Miller is pretty good at these scripts and he's typically on the SW F&W board.

    Regards,

    Fred

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    Re: Task Bar Button Text (XP sp2)

    Leif,

    I've posted a continuation of this in <post#=485225>post 485225</post#> on the Software Finds and Wants board. Towards the end, I mention the various other boards this could have been posted on. If you think it useful to move to or cross-post from those other boards, please do so.

    Thanks.

    Fred

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