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    'Special HDD Driver'?

    Lady across the street has an eMachine etower 600is, that was running Windows ME. HDD is a Seagate 10MB. She wanted me to redo it as a Win98SE machine, so before I started the installaiton I put in a single Seagate 20GB drive that I had lying around. When the Win98 installation fired up, it stopped almost immediately with a report that their was either no hard drive present, or that a special driver was needed for the hard drive. Never run into this kind of error before. Anyone have any suggestions?

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    What file system had the "old" 20 GB Seagate been formatted with?

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

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    >> What file system had the "old" 20 GB Seagate been formatted with? <<

    I'd have to plug it back in to be sure, but it was either FAT or FAT32, not NTFS.

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    Hmmm. My theory (as you astutely guessed) was that it could have been NTFS. But I have no idea what messages Windows 98 would give on finding such a drive...

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    Is the replacement drive beeing seen in the BIOS setup?

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    JohnGray,

    >> Hmmm. My theory (as you astutely guessed) was that it could have been NTFS. But I have no idea what messages Windows 98 would give on finding such a drive... <<

    My apologies. When you referred to "old" HDD, I thought you were referring to the original one in the eMachine. The drive I think you really meant was the one I wanted to install in the PC, which was actually a Western Digital. Although it is labeled as a 20GB, the eMachine's BIOS reports it as only an 8.4GB in the Boot screen, but doesn't "see" it at all in the Main BIOS screen. I moved it over to my XP Pro PC as a Slave drive, where it once again shows up as an 8.4GB drive. Although the BIOS on that PC DOES show it as "seen", XP doesn't see it. So I can't tell how it is currently formatted.

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    If you have a Windows 98 or SE or whatever boot disk, leave the drive in your XP machine.
    Boot to the disk and use FDISK to "blow away" the partitions in the slave drive and reformat it using FAT32, after making one new active partition.
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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    The 8.4 GB (or 7.8 GB, depending on your "definition" of the Gigabyte) was a "magic number" in NT4 because that was the maximum partition size at which you could guarantee that the operating system could boot. Bigger than that, and you ran the risk of a "system file" starting above the boundary (e.g. on the application of an update) and thus being inaccessible at boot time. Read all about it here <!mskb=224526>Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 224526<!/mskb>.

    Bob's suggestion seems to be the best approach...

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    Bob,

    >> Boot to the disk and use FDISK to "blow away" the partitions in the slave drive and reformat it using FAT32, after making one new active partition. <<

    Got the boot disk. My Primary drive is partitioned into C, D, E, and F. Opticals are G and H. When I boot from the disk, what should I expect the Slave drive to have for a drive letter?

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    Probably drive "I" but click on "My Computer" or go into WIndows Explorer to see where it has been placed. Sometimes Windows will insert your HDs ahead of the opticals.
    If Windows doesn't see it, then look for the drive that is 8.4 gigs.
    Just make <big>sure</big> you select the right drive to work on.
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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    Bob,

    >> If Windows doesn't see it, then look for the drive that is 8.4 gigs. <<

    Windows doesn't see it, so that's what I'll have to do. It's been so long since I used FDISK I couldn't remember if you had to feed it the drive designation immediately, or if it would give you choices later.

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    It should give you a letter designation AND the size, so go that route.
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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    Bob,

    >> Just make sure you select the right drive to work on. <<

    Unfortunately FDISK produced a message "Unable to access Disk 2."

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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    Hmmm... Are you sure that was a good HD?

    Maybe it was formatted with a unique format.
    Go to this Seagate site and check out their Hard Drive setup using DISK WIZARD
    There is also other suggestions using disk management features in XP, 2000, ME and SE.
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    Re: 'Special HDD Driver'?

    Bob,

    >> Hmmm... Are you sure that was a good HD? <<

    Nope. I'm beginning to think the drive is defective. Think I'll check the sale flyers tomorrow and see if I can find a 40 or 60GB drive on sale.

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