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    Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 SP1)

    I just switched over to Office 2003 and am just wondering: when you point at a toolbar button, is there any way to stop it from changing colors? I have to take screen shots of Office a lot, and I don't the buttons to appear blue in the screen shots. I know, probably a dead end, but I thought I'd ask.

    Thanks for all help!

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    Re: Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 SP1)

    There are many good free screen capture utilities. They usually "freeze" the screen so that you can select part of it to use in screenshots. Do a search in the Software Finds and Wants forum for screen capture or screen grabber.

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    Re: Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 S

    I already use FullShot.

    Problem is, to capture a button, you have to point at it, causing it to change color. So now I have to go into an image program and recolor it. If you don't point at it, you can do a region capture, but then you have to go into an image program and manipulate it (add border, crop, etc). So either way, I have to do additional post-processing of the image which is slow and tedious. The old-style buttons captured perfectly with no post-processing needed.

    So unfortunately, I have to have a way of removing the hover color.

    Thanks for the suggestion though.

    Frank.

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    Re: Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 S

    Perhaps FullShot can be tricked into using a two step process: (1) identify the target, but (2) wait to take the shot for a second or two (giving you time to move your mouse). I don't know whether that is possible with the current version or will require further development. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 S

    If the region capture mode lets you drag a rectangle on the screen, it should be possible to capture a button without needing to post-process the image. There are also screen capture utilities that have built-on cropping etc. facilities.

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    Re: Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 S

    Yes,

    I appreciate the input and you're right, FullShot can both crop and draw an outline. But that's really what I'm trying to avoid: use of an image program in order to tweak the button capture.

    Back in the halcyon days before we switched to Office 2003 and were using 2000, all I had to do was a FullShot button capture in the appropriate program, Excel for example, then paste the captured image into the document or presentation in which I wanted to display the button. A button capture took literally two steps: grab it, paste it. FullShot added a black outline around it automatically (still can actually, but it's around that darn blue button).

    With Office 2003, I have to either:
    1. Capture the button in blue and live with it, which I don't want to do because, for one, it represents the button as being blue when in fact it is not.
    2. Capture the button, then post-process it somewhere else to recolor the blue into the appropriate gray.
    3. Do a region capture of the button in its inactive/gray state, then post-process by cropping out those parts of the region capture I don't want and surrounding the remainder with a border.

    The only method by which I can see to make it work in 2003 as it does in 2000 is to deactivate the color switch in Office, via some setting, reg hack or other tomfoolery. Unfortunately, it seems like this is a dead end and I'm just going to have to live with one of the 3 "solutions" above.

    Thanks again for the suggestions.

    Frank.

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    Re: Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 S

    Try this: the color does not change when you mouse over a button while the Customize dialog is showing. Does FullScreen work the way you want it to in that scenario?

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    Re: Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 S

    For anyone who may have some bizarre interest in this, here's a less-than-perfect workaround (thank God for brainstorms while showering).

    Office 2003 gets the color change, apparently, from the Settings tab of the Display Properties panel. Specifically, from the color setting for "Selected Items". If you change that color from the blue to a gray color, the buttons are gray when hovered over. I used RGB 225,223,217 after some experimentation. Granted, the Office 2003 buttons are actually gray gradients rather than flat gray, but this is close enough to the right thing that I'm satisfied with it.

    Keep in ind that this will change the way a lot of other stuff looks as well. While it ain't perfect, it allows for workable button captures with no need to post-process, which was really my goal.

    Thanks to anybody who helped, especially Hans and jscher.

    Frank

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    Re: Prevent Buttons Changing Colors (Office 2003 S

    That's a really good suggestion.

    Basically, it does work: if the Customize box is on screen, and you click the button to get the black frame around it, FullShot will capture the button. It captures it with the black frame but seems to miss about two pixels on the right and bottom of the capture, so the button looks...I guess uneven would be the best way to put it. That's a FullShot problem, obviously, so essentially this should work.

    If you don't click the button to focus the "customize border" ahead of time, the button capture doesn't work correctly because FullShot can't use the frame to figure out the button's dimensions because there's no obvious boundary. I mean, I think that's what it does based on my experience with it.

    Thanks for the suggestion!

    Frank

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