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    Can you count?

    Warning: this is a difficult puzzle!

    The table below shows some numbers in the language of a faraway people.

    <table border=1><td>number</td><td>name</td><td align=right>8</td><td>nolbov</td><td align=right>15</td><td>utxujbov</td><td align=right>49</td><td>utbov rapel attelbov</td><td align=right>50</td><td>utbov</td><td align=right>99</td><td>attelsut attelbov</td><td align=right>555</td><td>xotsutn xotbov rapel ut</td><td align=right>900</td><td>attelbovsut</td><td align=right>918</td><td>attelbovsut nolbovxujbov</td></table>
    Study these examples carefully, then answer the following questions:

    Which numbers are written here?
    a) utsutn ut
    [img]/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif[/img] nolsut rapel xot
    c) attelbovsutn attelbovxujbov

    How would these people write the following numbers?
    d) 58
    e) 80
    f) 716

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    Re: Can you count?

    So far....all I can say is holy cow. This may take a while.
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    Re: Can you count?

    I didn't expect a solution within minutes... <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Can you count?

    Just checking:

    should <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">"xotsutn xotbov rapel ut" be "xotsut xotbov rapel ut"?</span hide>
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    Re: Can you count?

    No, it's correct...

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    Re: Can you count?

    Thanks
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    Re: Can you count?

    I don't remember ever seeing a puzzle from Hans - and now I know why!
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    Re: Can you count?

    It is a slightly modified version of a puzzle that was offered to high school students earlier this week <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Can you count?

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17>I think he was trying to say mine and Jezza's were too easy...he was showing us what a *real* hard puzzle was like
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    Re: Can you count?

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">Hans, can I assume that these faraway people have as many fingers as you?</span hide>
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    Re: Can you count?

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17><span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">Depends on whose account of how many hands he has you go by</span hide> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Can you count?

    The puzzle is based on the language of an existing people/tribe in Siberia. They use a method of numbering that is bizarre to us, but there is a system to it. I changed the words a bit to prevent Googling the solution.

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    Re: Can you count?

    Two hints for those who want them:

    1) <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">This is mostly a logic puzzle: try to combine the information provided by the examples. Mathematics is hardly involved, certainly no advanced maths.</span hide>

    2) <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">The numbering system is basically decimal, although with a strange twist.</span hide>

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    Re: Can you count?

    Thanks Hans

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold"> A couple of us are collaborating and we have come up with a number of soloutions where the syllables fit and then we get a twist as it does not compute. I had the idea of a base change which worked for a couple of the numbers...gave up.

    At the moment I am thinking it could be similar to the Mayan system( where they used 1, 20,360 number tower) but not the same.

    Anyway it is driving us nuts</span hide>
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    Re: Can you count?

    <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>, <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>
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