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    Winbolic Link

    PearlMagik.com - Winbolic Link creates special folders which serve as links to the contents of another folder. They are functionally similar to "symbolic links" or "symlinks" which unix users are familiar with.

    Winbolic Link creates these links using only built-in functionality of Windows. It does not extend or modify the functionality of Windows or the file system, install any drivers, or require any service to remain running to maintain functionality. It merely creates the special kinds of files and folders Windows already supports, but which Microsoft did not distribute tools to create.
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    Microsoft Windows 98/ME/2000/XP (any editions)
    Microsoft Windows 2000 or XP (any editions) using NTFS, to use Junctions
    Microsoft .NET Framework

    100 -150 KB <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>ware!

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    P.S.

    What is the usefulness/benefit of using that concept of "Symbolic Link"?

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    Hi Tivoli0

    I'm going to try it to free up space on my 'C' drive by moving some installed program folders over to my 'D' drive, a physically different drive, and replacing them with Winbolic Shortcut Folders.
    This is one work-around for those programs that insist on installing on the 'C' drive.

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: Winbolic Link

    <hr>...creates special folders which serve as links to the contents of another folder... <hr>
    I haven't checked your link yet Alan, but I'm wondering if what it does is the same as, or similar to what was discussed <!post=in this thread,329621>in this thread<!/post> some time ago. More recently, Stuart <!post=made this post,494,854>made this post<!/post> which seems to be a more concise way of describing the procedure. Whaddya think - is it the same ballpark?

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    Hi Alan,

    I read your posting and the winbolic page with interest because it seems like the new version of Windows (Vista) will have a feature like this called virtual folders according to a review I read (and because I'm interested in any software you mention, of course).

    The winbolic page had a comparison of this ("shell link" feature?) to windows' shortcuts. I didn't see any (significant or otherwise) difference between the two. Maybe I'm missing something so would appreciate anyone enlightening me on this.

    The junction feature did seem useful for what I think might not be frequent cases. So would appreciate enlightenment on this also.

    Lastly, if anyone does know, how would these features compare with the Vista virtual folder feature (Alan: I know you haven't upgraded to XP yet so ...).

    TIA

    Fred

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    Hi Fred

    Long time <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>. To tell you the truth, I don't know what/ if there are any significant difference between a shortcut and a symbolic link. I know that the Unix style of doing things is different, and "better" according to the Linuxheads... but that may well be simply because it's Linux vs MS. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> Having given it a bit more thought myself, I feel that the most useful kind of "shortcut" I've played with is creating namespace extensions (like Printers, Recycle Bin etc.); although it's one heck of a slog doing it (at least, the way I did).

    The article: Shell-Shocked :: Windows Symbolic and Hard Links seems to give a more indepth explanation. There's more info on the topic you mentioned here: Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows: Working with Display Drivers in Windows Vista Beta 1. It's something I must become familiar with once XP materializes! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    Hi Al

    I'm really not sure of the subtleties of any of these link or shortcut types, I'm afraid. I posted this mainly because I'd often heard the comment "... but in Linux you can just make a <whatever> to a directory. Windows is just <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> - get a proper O/S etc. etc. <img src=/S/yawn.gif border=0 alt=yawn width=15 height=15>" I must say, after all this discussion, it would be nice to be enlightened on the details.

    Alan

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    Hi Alan,

    I had read Paul T's earlier review of Win Vista so that's how I learned about v-folders. Your current link went to what must be a followup by Paul but didn't change my impression of what they were. However, it does seem like v-folders are diff than what winbolic is offering although I still don't quite get what the advantage of the shortcut analogy is.

    As far as the junction feature, maybe there's some benefit to that for moving program files for those nasty pgms that insist on living on the C or when you run out of room on it. Kind of reminds me of a DOS command - I think it was SUBST where you could assign a drive letter to a folder/path.

    Keep finding those freebies. Most of them don't generate this kind of discussion of "what the hell is it"?

    Fred

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    I can't really explain the techie side of things, but symlinks in linux tend to make things 'shorter', or easier to remember. At least that is my experience so far.

    For example, when I install the Java Plugin for Mozilla on my linux installation, I needed to run <pre>ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7 /libjavaplugin_oji.so</pre>

    This was run in the Mozilla Firefox Plugin directory for my user account. If I upgrade firefox, I don't have to redo the java install, I just re link the plugin.

    It also allows for changes to happen to software installs, without modifying configurations. For example, if I wanted to rebuild my kernel, I can do so in a separate directory, and continue to have the current kernel available (in case I mess up... but that doesn't happen <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> ). Once I'm happy, I relink the symbolic kernel, to the new location, and away I go.

    Clear as mud?? Good... I wasn't hoping for crystal <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>.
    Christopher Baldrey

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    Thanks Chris. I'm sure they must be of significant use, otherwise they wouldn't be such a predominant feature in the Unix O/S. But they sound like one of those features you'd have to use regularly to appreciate.

    Alan

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    Chris,

    Let me ask this question to see if I can better understand.

    If I have a Windows shortcut pointing to its target x in folder y and I move x to folder z, would symlinks (or junctions) help find x if I put a symlink in folder y to x now in folder z (clear as mud?)?

    It almost seems like one might be able to put a symlink/junction to the Windows itself (whatever the first Windows pgm is that gets control) so one could install another version of Windows somewhere else instead of on a separate partition. Maybe this is taking things too far. But it seems like a natural progression of moving a program from being under C:Program Files (for those misbehaved pgms that insist on installing on C) to D:Program Files (which I still don't quite understand how/why it would work).

    TIA

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    Re: Winbolic Link

    I really can't comment on that Fred. I have no idea.

    I just use technology, I don't understand it <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>.
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