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    Virtual Desktop

    Due to the change in my job and the way that my Company wants us to work, which will include hot desking, fixed based project working and homeworking. I have to consider the best way for the team to accomplish their work.

    To give you some background. The Os's is not standard throughout the company with a mixture of Win 98, Win 2000 and a few Laptops using Win XP. To further complicate matters Office packages range from O97, O2000 and OXP. The team are responsible for the day to day functioning of about 7 major corporate applications, all requiring different specifications of OS and Office package. As and when new version or upgrades take place we have to test the applications in various OS. This is not a great issue now as we have a set of boxes piled up with each configuration but it will be in the near future when fixed work places are removed to go to hot desking this will not be an option.

    I have been told to investigate Virtual Desktop having no knowledge of this apart from a the very basics, I was wondering if anybody has knowledge or experience with this method. To tell you what I know: I will be able to move to a hotdesk and then plug in a portable HD via USB and the software on the removable HD will allow me to select which OS image I want to use and then mimic it virtually on the host PC from the removable HD. Only issue but it does not sound too much of an issue is that we would have to have at least 1Gb RAM on the host to run it.

    Anyway your thoughts are welcome.
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    Re: Virtual Desktop

    Bear in mind that Windows 98 is unhappy with more than 512 MB of RAM...

    Why not give everyone their own laptop which they can use at home, or at work on a wireless (or wired, if you really must) connection?

    Much as I hate laptops with a perfect hate, that would solve your problem, provided you can get Windows, AV updates and the like installed on the laptops when they are connected to the corporate LAN...

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    Re: Virtual Desktop

    Thanks for the info on OS 98, I never realised that. Win 98 will not be the issue as it is being phased out over the next couple of months so we may have to use a standalone for that short period.

    Laptops are an option and one we are looking at but we have had issues about linking in on the extranet and having access to full network access due the various proxy servers we use... this option is still in discussion. As to the AV updates, if I have a user that wants to dial in on a 56.6kpbs modem then they have to wait about 10 minutes until the updates are installed.

    I work in an inner london area which is absolutely rife with street robbery and there is a real and present danger and worry from the staff that they do not really want to lug a laptop around with them on a day to day basis. We have had two people robbed in the past month and the guys are not happy.

    Home working is a lesser problem as they will not necessarily be doing testing from home as we want to have full access to the networks whilst testing as this is where the vast majority of staff will be accessing it from.....Like you laptops have there place but can be very slow, ploddy and damn right irritaing when you want to bulldoze an application.

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    Re: Virtual Desktop

    <hr>I work in an inner london area which is absolutely rife with street robbery and there is a real and present danger and worry from the staff that they do not really want to lug a laptop around with them on a day to day basis. We have had two people robbed in the past month and the guys are not happy.<hr>
    Then probably the best thing you can suggest is that the firm moves to a safer area? It will cost a bit, but it will save on the insurance...

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    Re: Virtual Desktop

    By 'virtual desktop' do you mean to log in remotely to a computer and work on it as if you were sitting in front of it? Or do you mean multi-boot computer with all your various OS's installed for testing?

    There are programs like VNC (works w/many OS's, is free, very popular)
    http://www.realvnc.com/, and http://www.tightvnc.com/

    I've also used GoToMyPC but stopped using it this year as it's very $$ and doesn't work through my VPN. I switched to MyWebExPC which is really cheap (free for now) and works through my VPN and is almost as good as GoToMyPC was. I work from home 2-3 days/week and connect via VPN to my employer's internal web site, email, secure instant messaging, etc. The remote access programs I mentioned I use to connect to my brother/sister's PC to get them out of a jam, fix things, etc. It's much easier than explaining for the 100th time how to do something on their PCs <img src=/S/hairout.gif border=0 alt=hairout width=31 height=23>

    Microsoft has a product called Virtual PC, http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx which I haven't used but there is a lot of info on it n various forums to find out the real deal and not MS hype. It's not a remote user product but one that lets you have multiple OS's on one PC and switch back/forth easily.

    Some articles on Virtual PC:
    http://www.wired.com/news/technology...,48964,00.html
    http://vpc.visualwin.com/

    Deb

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    Re: Virtual Desktop

    Is (would) this MS "acquired" product be of any interest to you: Microsoft Virtual PC 2004. I bought a copy when it was discussed here in The Lounge and have a "virtual machine" running here for Win98SE, Win2K and WinXP Pro and although I'm not a heavy hitter, it does come in handy.

    Edited for mea culpa: Sorry, that's what I get for not reading Deb's post first. Well anyway, at least you found someone who uses MS Virtual PC.

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    Re: Virtual Desktop

    Thanks for all these links Deb ( and Al)

    This has given me food for thought as I have to produce a Pro's and Cons paper for the System guys this week
    Jerry

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    Re: Virtual Desktop

    Hi John FYI

    I just thought I give you an update on the Win 98/ 512Mb issue which you quite rightly brought up.

    I have just been to a small demonstration on VMWare. A virtual desktop solution. If my host PC has , say 1Gb of RAM, and I run a Win 98 emulation, error messages do pop up stating the RAM problem but if these are ignored (cancelled) then the system will still run normally.

    With VMWare, the emulation is so"real" that after a while the corporate network sees it and tries to add AV and Altiris software.
    Jerry

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