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    Age old question....

    Generally what is the consensus with Anti-virus software/firewall/anti-spam.....etc?
    I'm about to update my software from Norton 2004.......do I go for 2005, McAfee, Kaspersky, ZoneAlarm.............Ideally I'd like some with a certain amount of control, like the firewall, antispam....but also non intrusive. I had ZoneAlarm(I think) an absolute age ago and it used to pop up messages absolutely loads and rather irritated me after awhile (although I realise that this allowed alot of user control).
    I'm sure that there are pro and cons of all of them but I'd like to spend my pound wisely...advice would be appreciated.
    I'm running XP Pro with Firefox

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    Re: Age old question....

    There is no consensus about anti-virus programs and firewalls Each one seems to generate intense likes and dislikes, so any recommendations you'll get will be individual preferences.

    There is more agreement about anti-spyware programs: don't rely on any single one, but use several. The ones used by many Loungers are Spybot Search & Destroy, LavaSoft AdAware, Microsoft Anti-Spyware Beta, JavaCool SpywareBlaster, and more (such as TrendMicro CWShredder). There are commercial programs, but the ones I mentioned here are all free.

    Also see these star posts:
    Anti Adware, Spyware, Hijack
    Tutorials & Links to Detection & Removal Tools
    Software Firewall: Why use it, Where to get it

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    Re: Age old question....

    Wow, how useful where some pf those posts??? Cheers Hans!
    I think I'll end up making my own mind about the AV as I have my own personal preference. I wasn't too sure whether there was a general consensus, for instance, that Norton clogs up the computers, McAfee is ineffective.......and so on.

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    Re: Age old question....

    And to illustrate what Hans said about likes and dislikes, I used to use Norton long ago and then McAfee. But that was for their antivirus program, not firewall or antispam. I eventually dumped each one because of what I thought at the time was their "system hogging" tendancies. But, you see that becomes old news very quickly for I couldn't tell you whether their current versions are still a problem. The only thing I do see is the number of Loungers who use, and are satisfied with each in their current versions. To this day, I use the free version of Sygate's firewall and the spyware programs that Hans has mentioned. I'm in my third year of use with Trend Micro's PC-cillin and still use it only for the antivirus capability (TREND MICRO - ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE) - their U.K. link rather than USA.

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    Re: Age old question....

    Just a word of caution about upgrading your Norton 2004. From personal experience (see Post 503718) it's best to completely remove any previous version of a Norton product befor you upgrade. If you don't, you could have a real nightmare on your hands. Symantec knows about all this, but doesn't let you know up front. They have even created removal tools to resolve these problems. But even the removal tools don't always work and you have to edit the Symantec entries out of the registry manually (Symantech's own advice <img src=/S/yikes.gif border=0 alt=yikes width=15 height=15>). HTH
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    Re: Age old question....

    Nigel,
    As Hans mentioned above, there really is no concensus as to antivirus software. If you do some Googling around, you may find that what is preferred by a majority of computer writers and editors one year is not preferred the next. Programs change, and so to preferences. Like Al, I used to use Norton's Antivirus, but switched in 2003 because of its invasive nature. I stopped using the Panda 7 Platinum suite because it wouldn't remember my user ID, and caused me endless renewal headaches, but that seemed to be an individual glitch, and nothing that happened to everyone using the suite. For the last couple of years, I've been happily using CA's EZ Armor 3.1, but am only using the antivirus part of the suite, since I own ZoneAlarm Pro, and use it instead of the older, CA-branded version of ZoneAlarm that is included in the suite. CA makes a good product, as do many others. I have noticed, in the past year, that lots of people are switching to either Nod32 or Kaspersky antivirus, although I have no personal experience with either. What is important is that you pick a good one, and that you keep it updated. Again, do some Googling around. Good luck.
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    Re: Age old question....

    For what it's worth <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>, the latest issue of a popular pc publication makes the following freeware recommendations:

    Antispyware: Ad-Aware SE Personal 1.06, MS Antispyware, Spybot Search and Destroy 1.4

    Antivirus: AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic, avast! 4 Home Edition, AVG Free Edition

    Firewalls: Kerio Personal Fireware 4, Outpost Firewall Free 1.0, Sygate Personal Firewall 5.x, ZoneAlarm 6

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    Re: Age old question....

    Thanks for that, and thankyou everyone for your advice!! Its been helpful to say the least. <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23> <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16>

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    Re: Age old question....

    Start the Personal Firewall. Click 'Configure', then 'Programs'. You'll see Manual Control. There will be a list of programs. You can add programs from here by browsing. I think you might have to browse to, then click an executable file you want to add. There's probably an Apply & OK as well. I believe you can also delete programs by right-clicking, but I could be wrong about that. Any Norton Firewall users in the Lounge? Is that right? I don't have any machines running NIS now, so I can't check.

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    Re: Age old question....

    I'm still sufferring with NAV (currently 2005, 3 license edition), but I reall got fed up with Symabyec a numbe rof years ago when they dropped their support forums.

    And now, "support" is in India. Not only have I experiended language problems, but phone connections, even if maintained, were awful.
    I have not called since early this year, so I do not know if there is an improvement.

    Also, the :documentaion" is very poor and the info at the Symantec web ain't much better.
    For example, using Live Update, something called a Trusted Applocations List" is periodically updated.
    I can find NO documentation on that list other than a KB article that there is some way to view/change the list, but does not state how.

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    Re: Age old question....

    I just have NAV, not the Personal Firewall, and I have not found any way to display/change the list of Trusted Apps.
    Might be there, but I ain't found the mechanism yet.

    Worse is the lack of documentation in the KB.

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    Re: Age old question....

    Sorry -- I made the mistaken assumption that you had Norton Internet Security on that machine.

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    Re: Age old question....

    But then, neither does "Symabyec" allow you to change the list of viruses/trojans/etc which are allowed to access your computer. Would you really want this capability? I certainly don't. I am not an AV expert and that's why I purchase and depend on an AV package, anti-spy ware packages and a firewall to protect my computer.
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    Re: Age old question....

    I was talking explicitly about the trusted applications list.
    Symantec has no business telling us what applications to trust.
    And, the one KB article I found implies that there is a means to change/view the list.

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    Re: Age old question....

    I'm not sure the concept of a trusted applications list applies to the AV component, as opposed to the firewall component. AV software may have an exclusion list that refers to particular executables or folders, but this would be user-configurable.

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