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    Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    I'm confused, OK, you already knew that!

    It was my understanding that when one visits a URL, the server can determine my IP address.

    Since when is it allowed for them to go digging and get my email address?

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    Do you not receive the same "results" when you visit the site using Opera or IE - or any other browser that you may have?

    It appears that they are accessing your cookie cache (& reading the contents from another site - such as perhaps an M$ site?)

    What is the URL of the site in question - so that we may be warned of this?
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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    I've not yet tried to reproduce the problem using IE or Opera.

    Might also depend on how cookies are handled.

    In Firefox, there is a comvenient option to "Allow only session cookies", which is what I normally do for one-shot visits.
    I do not recall the exact sequence.

    I have just purchased a new car, so I went to www.geico.com to see what rate they would quote for insurance.
    I backed out because I did not want to provide all the info they requested for contact info.

    Akmost immediately, afte rusing the site, I got the email message.

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    On the basis of a look @ both my entire Firefox prefs.js (about:config in the Address Bar) and a selective look at Tools|Options|Privacy|Cookies, I can't see any trace of Firefox storing anything resembling an e-mail address for me.

    OTOH looking at IE's ....Documents and Settings[username]Cookies shows a wide range of items in the format of [username]@[website].

    If your e-mail address is [username]@[ISP], it shouldn't take the website server too much effort to do a WHOIS on your IP Address and then send a proforma e-mail to [username]@[ISP].

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    Cookies can only be read from the domain that placed them, so it is not possible for a web site to ascertain your email address without you first providing it to them. The only logical explanation is that you supplied it early in the process of requesting a quotation.

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    Hi Howard

    Unkamunka might be on the right track regarding an automated Whois Search as your email address is listed in the search results.
    However, your email address is "protected" and should not be able to be "harvested".

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    I do not have my ISP in myb address.
    Address is to my own domain, and that's the address that was used.

    Since I use a dynamic IP address when I connect to my ISP, there's not really any way they can link that to my domain address.

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    I never supplied the email address.
    Indeed, I quit the site when it asked for my name, email address, phone, etc.
    All it needed was a zip code or street address to determine a quote, I was not about to give them any contact info,

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    I do not see how one can garner my domain name from the dynamic IP address I use to connect to my ISP.

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    Why don't you email them - from a disposable address - and ask them why they emailed you something you (presumably) consider to be UCE? If they are above board they should tell you.
    But this still doesn't answer your original question of legality. Perhaps you need to find out the how first before it can be considered an appropriate question.

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    Just for the record, Howard, your email address is ALL OVER the internet. It doesn't take too much looking to find you and I don't know if that's good or bad. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    Out of curiosity after reading this thread a few hours ago, I also went to the GEICO web pages and asked for a quote. I went through the several screens you evidently did, but eventually "backed out" as you did. I have yet to receive an email from them. AND, I did (as Leif suggested) attempt to give them an email address that I use at my domain for such things (shopping@alhoffman.org) and their silly screen said that I had an error in my provided address - an illegal character (which is beyond me). As I said, that was about three hours ago and I have yet to receive an email from GEICO, so I suspect you must've given them something to go on.

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    i cannot recall the steps i did, or exactly when i backed out of the site.

    itr is possible thgat i authorized a session cookie and that is what grabbed my email address from somewhere.

    i wish i had saved the email message.

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    Re: Exposure of email address (Firefox)

    yes, my email address is all over the internet.

    i filter out crap at my isp's mail server (hundreds of messages per day, last I checked) and have pretty good extensive set of filters in THunderbird and Eudora that catches most of the rest.

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