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    changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    <font face="Script MT Bold">Everyone keeps telling me that WinAmp is the best, but it keeps doing things that bug me.</font face=script>


    When I installed WinAmp, it "helpfully" changed the file type descriptions for all of the files types that it could play to "WinAmp media file" and changed the icons of all of those files to the light blue "square wave" winamp icon. All of them. All of the audio files, all of the video files.

    I'm trying to organize a media collection here on my PC, and I really need to know what actually format that these files are in, so I want to change the icons and files descriptions to something unique.

    Simple, right? Tools, Folder Options, File Types, scroll down the .Ogg extension, Advanced, change the description and pick a new icon. Simple right? Apparetnly not, because when I do that, it proceeded to change the icon and description for all of Winamp's file types. So, the wav, the mpg, the mp3s, the avi's suddenly all have the description that I gave only the .ogg file extension.

    I just tried this a similar siuation here at the office (irfanview also captures a large number of different file types), and I had no problem only altering one file type.

    This is something that I haven't seen before, and I can't seem to uncover anything helpful from my searches.

    Any clue what's going on here?

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    WinAmp application automatically checking file associations on your computer and restores them if they are changed. To stop such behavior,

    - Start WinAmp
    - From Options menu select Preferences
    - On the left pane of Winamp Preferences dialog select "File Types"
    - uncheck "Restore file associations at Winamp startup"
    - You can also click "None" button to restore file associations as they was before Winamp installation.

    (These steps are for Winamp v.5.11. Previous versions may have different settings)

    Explanation of your "strange behavior":

    Wnamp set the value of the key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT.OGG(default) to Winamp.File that is the same as for .wav, .mp3 and other files. If you change an icon for .ogg file, the icon is associated with Winamp.File, but not with OggFile, as you expect.

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    Any program will grab all of the extensions that are associated with that program and use it's icon. There is NO one icon that is for a file type, the icon is based on a program AND a file type.

    I do NOT use the ICON display in my Windows Explorer, for this reason, I make sure that the extensions are shown and use the "Details" mode.

    To change the ICON, all one needs to do is to change the associated program to the file type.

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    Thanks,

    Why would they do such a thing?

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    I have no idea what you are talking about. And what I can figure out, doens't seem to be right.

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    Why would they do such a thing?

    Probably to tie you to their advertisement. If you are playing music with their application, it leads you to websites they promote and for products they want you to buy. That's why I prefer MusicMatch - it is far less agressive in advertisement.

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    Yeah, I figured it was primarily a marketing tool. Very annoying to me. I does cause a big poblem if you are using a file browser to organize many files of different types, and they've all been converted to the same type by an "over-eager" program! They only way I could tell what type of file it is was by examining the extension at the end of the file name. The extension that windows keeps wanting to hide from me, and even when it's displayed, the "name" column in explorer tends to get resized so I can't see the full filename! Argh.

    Now, I have to go back and find all of the different media file types I am likely to use, and change them to something informative.

    I really have to start running one of those "install watch" applications, so I can see just what nonsense some of these programs are up to.

    This might be a decent solution to help out with managin associations: http://www.spearit.com/about_AssociateThis.html

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    OK, now that I read it in the light of day, I understand. Sometimes having the icon display in the list view is a useful visual cue, like when you are tryhing to see what files are .Ogg and which are .Wav in a large number of directories.

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    So, once I did this, all the files changed to "Some other Player's media file" icon and description. Apparently Winamp isn't the only program that knows this bit. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    The ICON will ALWAYS be of the default program to use the noted file, NOT the file type. There is NO file type ICON other than for those programs that the extension is ONLY valid for said program, i.e., Word document, Photoshop, Wordperfect, and etc. The generic files i.e., wav, meg, gif. jpg and etc will display the icon of the associated program.

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    Dave,

    Sorry to say, you are wrong. An icon as well as associated program for particular file extension is defined in Registry. For example, for .foo file:

    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT.foo
    (default) = "FooFile"

    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOTFooFileDefaultIcon
    (Default) = "Shell32.dll,256"

    But if DefaultIcon key is not exist, in this case, you are right, the associated icon will be the first icon (# 0) in EXE file that is in (default) key in
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOTFooFileshellopencommand

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    This is because you went and changed the way Windows is designed to work, The average user should NEVER do any editing of the registry. You are going around the intended design of the OS.

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    Unfortunately, "average user" has NO IDEA how Windows is designed to work. He (or she) never do neither "any editing of the registry", nor any settings changing through Control Panel. All that he(she) usually does, just call Help Desk, network administrator or any IT staff and ask a question which is difficult to understand. Sometimes easy to understand but difficult to answer ("Why I couldn't logon?" or "Where are my files that I saved on another computer?").

    But I hate the idea of "protecting a user from himself". Users are not animals which live in the cubicles. People are smart and have an ability to learn. If you sacrifice a half of an hour and explain "how it works", next time they will try to solve a problem by themselves first.

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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

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    <hr>If you sacrifice a half of an hour and explain "how it works", next time they will try to solve a problem by themselves first.<hr>
    </center>Maybe !!! But if the average user does try to solve it themself, they will likely make an even bigger mess (read problem) that someone else will have to work out. The VCR flashing 12:00 is a perfect example of the "average user".

    But that's just my pessimistic <img src=/S/2cents.gif border=0 alt=2cents width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: changing filetype options (XPPro SP2)

    Well, as a SysAdmin, I consider myself well beyond the average computer user. However, I often find I cannot fathom why MS makes various design decisions <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

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