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    iPod?

    This is no doubt the wrong place for this question, but:

    If I'm (my daughter is) looking for an iPod that can store, say 200 songs ("typical 3-4 minute singles), "about" how much memory should she be looking for?

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    Re: iPod?

    Count roughly 4 MB per song, so 200 songs would take up 800 MB, so 1 GB (1000 MB) should be enough.

    See iPod technical specifications

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    Re: iPod?

    Unless she just has to have an Ipod, look for a WMA device. They will hold many more songs in the same amount of memory which should equate to less moeny spent up front. Plus if you subscribe to a service per month you get as much music as you want as long as the subscription is kept up rather than paying .99/song (rumored to be changing to a flexible pricing system that is more to the music industry liking).

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    Re: iPod?

    Joe:

    But isn't there some issue with proprietary format with iPod / Apple?

    What can/do you do about songs in the apple format? Will they play? Convert?

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    Re: iPod?

    Protected music files, either in Apple's MPEG-4 (.AAC) or in the Windows Media format (.WMA) cannot be converted either to one another or to non-protected formats. However, someone once posted here that when she wanted to convert her iTunes store music to a player that couldn't play those files, she was able to do that by using iTunes to burn an audio CD, and then ripping the tracks from the audio CD into WMA format. Without reviewing license agreements, I couldn't tell you whether that would violate anything she agreed to in buying those songs from the iTunes store.

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    Re: iPod?

    That'll work Jefferson.

    THAT way, as noted, you don't need to put out the premium for the player...

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    Re: iPod?

    Yes, but ...
    Tracks bought from the iTunes store are 'protected', but the thousands of tracks that I've copied to iTunes from puchased CDs are stored in unprotected format. I can copy this to the iPod without any problem. Or I can create playlists and burn CDs without any limitation. And using my Mac (with an external CD drive) I have yet to encounter a 'copy protection scheme' that stops me from simply copying the CD to iTunes. (another reason to buy a Mac) - [justkiddingsmile-noneedtorespond]

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    Re: iPod?

    I see, so what you're saying is... Apple hardware, software and internet services will grab information from anywhere but stubbornly refuse to share it with any non-Apple hardware, software or internet services. Sounds like a good reason not to shop at iTunes to me!
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    Re: iPod?

    my iPod shuffle holds ~200-250 songs depending on the different file sizes of each song. the 1GB iPod is advertised to hold about 200 songs, which it does. The 512 MB version holds half that. The 1GB is $29USD ($129USD total) more for double the size of the $100USD 512MB iPod. but then if she wanted more at some point, or wanted the additional functionality of being able to see and select the songs she is playing, she would probably want the iPod Nano which costs $199 for 2GB (double that of the $129 shuffle). for a complete list, visit Apple
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    Re: iPod?

    ooops, I think I was misquoted ... <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>
    No, you can upload music files MP3 or AAC from just about any source (and convert MP3 to AAC and vv if you want) to a Mac (or a PC). These files can be uploaded to an iPod or other mp3 players via firewire and/or USB. The exception to this is anything you buy from iTunes is intended only to be played on an iPod (there are hacks to get around this). Why? Because Apple doesn't make a lot of money from the iTunes store (in fact there is some speculation that they lose money).

    Unlike Gillette, who practically give away razors and make a fortune on the blades, Apple practically give away the blades (the songs) and makes a bundle on the razors (iPod).

    I believe, but don't know for sure that the PC version of iTunes (the program) works much the same - any non iTunes store songs can be uploaded to an iPod or other player without restriction.

    Interesting Smilie there, but it doesn't look very much like a recent Mac!

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    Re: iPod?

    This is definitely only a <img src=/S/2cents.gif border=0 alt=2cents width=15 height=15> point, but... I found I could get over a very large part of the difference between home stereo sound and iPod sound by changing the format of the iPod files. MP3 files are ~12 times smaller than WAV files, but produce (relatively speaking) AM radio sound quality. If you're into hard core head banger stuff, then that difference is not significant. (WAV files can be compressed to
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    Re: iPod?

    I see... so I can't buy music from iTunes without having an iPod to play it on... still seems like an odd move to me <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17>You think the Mac looks old? The PC looks archaic! But let's not annoy our resident gifmeisters...
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    Re: iPod?

    By George, I think you've got it <img src=/S/sing.gif border=0 alt=sing width=24 height=20>! Yes for the reasons stated, Apple doesn't want to sell iTunes tunes (at a possible loss) if you want to play it on someone else's hardware.

    Actually this smile was modified by one of those, not to be annoyed, gifmeisters. This is the original:

    Why wouldn't the PC appear archaic? Isn't that the normal state of affairs. Beige and boring ... <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

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    Mine isn't beige!
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    Re: iPod?

    My first Mac was beige.
    My second Mac was beige too...

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