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    Hidden underline?

    Just messing around with my new browser (Firefox), I noticed if I scroll my mouse pointer over the WOODY'S LOUNGE text at the upper left of the page, an underline shows up. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

    Does it have to do with Lex's images?
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    Re: Hidden underline?

    I guess it's something in the stylesheet, but Claude or WyllyWylly are better qualified to confirm or deny that, and to explain why the underline is displayed in FireFox but not in Internet Explorer.

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    Re: Hidden underline?

    Interesting. Firefox also underlines Favorite Forums on the Controls page, but not Post Reminders nor Watched Threads. Also, Firefox does it on the FAQ page for every entry point, plus the text "No, it's too dangerous..." <img src=/S/heavy.gif border=0 alt=heavy width=40 height=34>
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    Re: Hidden underline?

    <hr> <img src=/S/heavy.gif border=0 alt=heavy width=40 height=34><hr>
    <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Hidden underline?

    Apparently it has to do with anchors on the page (text between <a name="blabla"> </a> tags)

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    Re: Hidden underline?

    Yes, you are correct. I was trawling through the page source and css files for the Lounge and was noting a few things. I was going to reply mentioning the anchors of the page but decided to err on the side of caution. It appears to be Firefoxes literal interpretation of an anchor. I noted a few other things with the code but I have decided to <img src=/S/hushmouth.gif border=0 alt=hushmouth width=16 height=16> as I had my tutors head on <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

    I am investigating now to see if FF has problems with perl

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17>Always ask this this but wouldn't this be best in the Other Browsers Forum now, I find it quite interesting
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    Re: Hidden underline?

    > Always ask this this but wouldn't this be best in the Other Browsers Forum now, I find it quite interesting

    Or Lounge Matters - I think I'll move it there.

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    Re: Hidden underline?

    <hr>I find it quite interesting<hr>

    Me too....

    <img src=/S/nerd.gif border=0 alt=nerd width=20 height=21> <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Hidden underline?

    The style sheets contain a a:hover directive which requests an underline. FF doesn't differentiate between a tag and a link and thus underlines the samples mentioned. Not sure which behaviour is correct, IE's or FF's ?

    Styleshee excerpt:

    a:hover{
    color: (depends on your skin selection);
    text-decoration:underline
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    Re: Hidden underline?

    I suppose the "correct" behavior would be that of the author writing the page...?
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    Re: Hidden underline?

    Hunting around and looking at FF's sensitivities it appears it needs another line:


    Stylesheet excerpt:

    a:hover{
    color: (depends on your skin selection);
    text-decoration:underline
    border: none
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    It may work <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
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    Re: Hidden underline?

    The <a name="top"> tag is intended to be a "bookmark" type anchor rather than a link type anchor. As the tag is not "closed" immediately with an </a>, Firefox uses some built-in algorithm to place the closing tag; in this case, it places it after the closing tag for the immediately adjacent tag:

    <a name="top"><span class="onbody"><center> whole lot of stuff </center></span></a>

    This seems logical for "link" type anchors, but it isn't that logical for "bookmark" type anchors. IE apparently handles this differently.

    Anyway, the solution is to close always close <a> tags regardless of the type. (The "official" W3C standards do require this, but until recently IE was the "de facto" standard...)

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    Re: Hidden underline?

    Different skins have different styles of text-decoration, but as far as I know, none use borders, which would be "outside" of all underlines and overbars.

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    Re: Hidden underline?

    The column title Favorite Forum has the same "unclosed <a> tag" issue described further up in this thread.

    The individual FAQ "answers" also have the unclosed tag problem.

    The phrase "No, it's too dangerous, but you can use" has the same issue, but I'm not sure why it was bookmarked in the first place. Hmmm...

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    Re: Hidden underline?

    <img src=/S/cool.gif border=0 alt=cool width=15 height=15> the closing tag issue was what I eluded to in <post:=537,684>post 537,684</post:>. The border thing was a shot in the dark, thanks
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